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June 25th, 2004, 12:28 pm

I told my friends the anecdote last night. Free drinks for me from then on!
 
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June 25th, 2004, 12:32 pm

Er, Bronte's, Austen, Mary Shelley, there are loads....
 
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June 25th, 2004, 12:38 pm

Don't forget Plath, Morrison, Silko....
 
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June 25th, 2004, 12:49 pm

No, not going to let you have any of those! They may all be deep and meaningful, but they are also...P
 
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June 25th, 2004, 12:59 pm

that's got me thinking, I can't actually think of any well know women composers....
 
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June 25th, 2004, 1:10 pm

I'd say lack of (classical) composers was a cultural issue with their position in society. Can you think of many female writers from 1600-1800? Post-1950s there's a big rise in both female composers and writers in light of a changing society.
 
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June 25th, 2004, 1:14 pm

That's true, but I was just thinking that while I could think of several pre 20th century female writers, I couldn't think of ANY female composers. there were plenty of female performers (opera singers etc) and instrument players, I can't think of any composers.
 
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June 25th, 2004, 1:47 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: PaulNo, not going to let you have any of those! They may all be deep and meaningful, but they are also...Pa) not sold in the Wilmott bookshop or b) not English ???? ;-)I do prefer Bronte or Shelley myself, although I have always liked Morrison. Edit: There we go
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June 25th, 2004, 1:59 pm

Edith Wharton is sort of Hemingwayish, isn't she?And no writer, male or female, has had greater influence in my life than Virginia Woolf.
 
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June 25th, 2004, 2:01 pm

Oh. Woolf and Wharton. Very good.
 
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June 25th, 2004, 2:05 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: bmThat's true, but I was just thinking that while I could think of several pre 20th century female writers, I couldn't think of ANY female composers. there were plenty of female performers (opera singers etc) and instrument players, I can't think of any composers.Why the heck would a female write a piece of music in the 1800's? To get a male performer to have sex with her? It wouldn't work.In the present day, most pursuits which can earn you community status, can also be cashed in for money. But if Britney Spears weren't going to get paid, but only get really popular if she was successful, would she do it?I wonder if, in the past, community status was a more common form of reward or currency relative to cash, and if it didn't interest girls as much?Edit: Can anyone think of the name of that figure skater, who was one of the first female pop stars? Oh I remember, Sonia Henie.
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June 25th, 2004, 2:10 pm

I make a big distinction between "fiction" and "literature". I do not deny their are women who are good at literature, some of the ones mentioned above, for example. I haven't read tons of these types of books, by males or females, so I can't really comment more. Except to say that Kurt Vonnegut is by far my favorite.But, as far as fiction goes, for example the kind of book you'd read on a plane, I haven't found any/many female authors I like. I have tried, for example, I've read one book by Patricia Cornwell, and it just didn't work for me.
 
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June 25th, 2004, 4:05 pm

Woolf, yes, a contender.P
 
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June 25th, 2004, 8:27 pm

I like Elizabeth Browning ...
 
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