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May 5th, 2019, 12:31 pm

"Rather than "preventing a lawful burial", which seems like a rather minor nuisance complaint"

It isn't, especially in cultures (e.g. Muslim) which require a deceased person to be buried within some time period after death. But I think that the truth is that the police suspects the guy killed them, but the only evidence they have for now is for preventing a lawful burial, so they arrested him for that to make sure he doesn't flee or remove evidence.

(This is me after binge-watching five seasons of "Line of Duty" on BBC).
 
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May 5th, 2019, 2:47 pm

From out of a period of barbarism in which humans had reduced themselves to the conditions of wandering beasts, some of these proto humans were shaken and aroused by a terrible fear of the sky and of the phenomena of the sky. Their imaginative response to these phenomena, together with their experience of the awesome power and indifference of nature, assumed the form of a fear of a particular Uranus or Jove which they feigned and believed in. We should notice here that, for Vico, the origin and sustaining force of the natural law of the gentiles was fear of an aprehended divinity. And this fear was the first piety. It was out of piety (i.e., fear of the absolute Other) that human beings invented religion and entered into carnal unions of solemnized marriage and hence, began to beget certain children of certain parents. This in turn made possible the birth of families. Through continued residence in certain places and through burial of the dead, these first people came to found the first dominions of the earth. Thus, for Vico, piety is the origin of the natural law of the gentiles and hence made possible the emergence not only the three most rudimentary institutions of humanity, marriage, religion and burial of the dead, but of the luci. Man was able to break out of nature through startling fear at the experience of his own alienation from nature. Vico's luci thus arise out of man's pious response to the indifference and overpowering power of nature, to the otherness of nature which the theological poets first envisaged as divinities
 
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May 5th, 2019, 3:01 pm

This is so contrary to evolution and biology.
 
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May 5th, 2019, 3:29 pm

That sounds like something Jordan Peterson would say or something in a bible somewhere. Very holy, divine and heavenly, though very true as well.
 
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May 5th, 2019, 3:33 pm

I guess it passed for "new science" 300 years ago.
 
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May 5th, 2019, 3:34 pm

It seems to me we are experiencing more thread drift than usual this week. 
 
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May 5th, 2019, 3:36 pm

Yeah, I also tried asking if it is common to have 100 guests around ALL THE TIME?
 
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May 5th, 2019, 5:06 pm

I hope your wife wasn't as unhappy in London as I was when I had to move here.
after 21 years here she has almost forgiven me.
 
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May 5th, 2019, 5:56 pm

I have just heard Beth Gibbons' & the Polish National Radio Symphony's recording of Gorecki's 3rd symphony on the radio.
I thought it remarkable.
It seems to me we are experiencing more thread drift than usual this week. 
 
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May 5th, 2019, 6:16 pm

I love it too! She's singing in Polish with a funny accent (which can distract a Polish speaker from the music and the theme - Holocaust).

Gorecki is often compared with Arvo Part, but they have very different roots. I can smell the morning lying in Tatra valleys in Gorecki's music, the fog, chilly air and those primordial monumental mountains :-D
 
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May 5th, 2019, 9:34 pm

What can you smell in Part's music?
 
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May 5th, 2019, 9:38 pm

Old musty clothes.
 
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May 5th, 2019, 9:42 pm

Is she singing Mom at the beginning? 
Quite good actually. I've only been exposed to the standards Mozart, Bach, Bethoven... And than I've also heard Anthony Hopkins, oddly enough he was originally going to be a componist and ended up in acting instead
 
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May 5th, 2019, 9:49 pm

Yes, "nie płacz, Mamo, nie płacz, nie." Here is the text with translation and the whole story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_ ... 3%B3recki)
 
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May 6th, 2019, 1:43 pm

I hope your wife wasn't as unhappy in London as I was when I had to move here.
after 21 years here she has almost forgiven me.
Good for you, but I hope that she's happy with that ;-P
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