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Re: Grammar Time!

February 28th, 2020, 9:23 pm

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Re: Grammar Time!

March 8th, 2020, 5:48 pm

When overseas came into use, there were no airplanes, so technically speaking, one traveled "across" or "on" the seas, in a ship. Nevertheless, one was thought to have made it "over the sea," hence overseas.
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Re: Grammar Time!

May 16th, 2020, 7:25 pm

What's 'better' when referencing articles

See Il'in, Kalashnikov and Oleinik 1962

or

See [1]

..
[1] Il'in etc.
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Re: Grammar Time!

May 17th, 2020, 2:38 am

Depends on the audience. 

Physics, math, medicine, biology, maybe others, often use "See [1]". 

Social science, finance, etc mostly use APA style, which is close to your first one. 

So, seems the rule is: 'harder' sciences use the more abbreviated style, at least for preprints.
 
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Re: Grammar Time!

May 17th, 2020, 3:19 am

I like the 'harder', numeral style, because it doesn't ruin the text aesthetics. When I refer to particular authors, I usually write something like "Katt et al. [1] argue ..."
 
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Re: Grammar Time!

May 17th, 2020, 7:38 am

In an article, is it allowed to refer to [10] before [!]?

With numbers, you tend to flip back and forth ... who is [1[?
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Re: Grammar Time!

May 17th, 2020, 2:16 pm

The AIP style is "cite references in numerical order". Kind of a silly style when you think about it, esp. with a large reference list.    
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Re: Grammar Time!

May 17th, 2020, 2:22 pm

The AIP style is "cite references in numerical order".  
Let's say two authors an article together?

Section 1

TBD use [11], ....?

Section 2

Done, uses [1] to [10]
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Re: Grammar Time!

May 17th, 2020, 2:25 pm

Proof of my point: it's a problematic style. And what if v2 introduces some new cites?
 
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Re: Grammar Time!

May 17th, 2020, 2:29 pm

Large reference set , multiple author, we need a referee (more admin)
There's enough to do as it stands ....

I am not a number. [6]

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Re: Grammar Time!

May 17th, 2020, 5:10 pm

Just one more thing: what is better?

Duffy et al

or

Duffy, Lewis and Wilmott
?
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Re: Grammar Time!

May 17th, 2020, 6:21 pm

Just one more thing: what is better?

Duffy et al

or

Duffy, Lewis and Wilmott
?
I am working on a book and using LaTeX with ``apacite.sty",  an oft-used version of the APA cite style for LaTeX. 
Since I have that reference already in my master bibliography file, I just invoked it, and it was typeset it as:

(Wilmott, Lewis, & Duffy, 2014). 

For more than 3 authors, the behavior might be different. 
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Re: Grammar Time!

May 17th, 2020, 6:26 pm

Just one more thing: what is better?

Duffy et al

or

Duffy, Lewis and Wilmott
?
I am working on a book and using Latex with ``apacite.sty", the APA cite style. Since I have that reference already in my master bibliography file, I just invoked it, and Latex typeset it as:

(Wilmott, Lewis, & Duffy, 2014). 

For more than 3 authors, the behavior might be different. 
I don't like & in front of my name :-) It will confuse C programmers.
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Re: Grammar Time!

May 17th, 2020, 6:43 pm

Here are some APA rules. Violations are severely punished.  :D
 
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Re: Grammar Time!

May 17th, 2020, 6:53 pm

Many ML articles have as many as 100 authors, e.g. Johann Gambolputty et al is enough.
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