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Emanuel Derman or God?

March 28th, 2007, 11:00 am

I wonder if this blogger has gone cracked, or if he just believes he is God like the average left-winger:QuoteThe epidemic of recent articles in the press about neurolaw and responsibility made me decide to believe in two contradictory ideas: 1. I will treat people as though they are responsible for their actions. {If they aren't, then I am not responsible for my action of treating them as they they're responsible.} 2. People are in the grip of forces beyond their control and can't help what they do, so they all deserve the mercy of God.What would this guy do if he were pinned under a rock? Lie there unharmed in his infinite wisdom? Or hold the rock responsible and push it off?I don't know what kind of person thinks he has the choice to not hold people responsible for their actions, maybe one with infinite wealth. But if some guy were to empty my bank account, for example, I would track him down, smack him to the ground and get my money back, and cut his hands off so he couldn't do it again.What kind of person even wonders these things?
 
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March 28th, 2007, 1:07 pm

Makes sense to me. A cyst suffocating your brain would go a long way towards explaining your intolerance
 
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March 28th, 2007, 1:25 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: dibbleMakes sense to me. A cyst suffocating your brain would go a long way towards explaining your intoleranceLooks like we got ourselves a sow instead of a boar What's your address, pretty boy? I have a vacation coming up. I could use some good lovin'.
 
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March 31st, 2007, 1:51 am

QuoteWhat kind of person even wonders these things?An intelligent one?
 
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March 31st, 2007, 1:58 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: TraderJoeAn intelligent one?You want to travel back in time? That's how fast someone will make you his bitch while you think about it. It already happened, and you don't even realize it.What you're really asking is "Is this person my child?" Call this agency for surrugate mothers, and they'll tell you the same thing I'm telling you, Joe: You can't even afford one child, much less the whims of every cruiser who wants to stick it to you. It is just not a choice you have. And anyone who wants to be your child, is going to end up pissing and sleeping on a plastic seat in the New Orleans Superdome.So what sort of person would contemplate this? An arrogant clueless one. And any of you is free to give me his house key so I can show you going broke in five seconds on camera, when it comes to tolerance...
 
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March 31st, 2007, 7:04 pm

This is puzzling to me. Doesn't belief in God imply belief in destiny? God, being all powerful can see what someone will do in the future. The actions one will take therefore have been pre-determined. So how can you hold someone responsible for their actions?
 
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March 31st, 2007, 10:00 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: gardener3The actions one will take therefore have been pre-determined. So how can you hold someone responsible for their actions?I know the road will curve. I therefore have predetermined that when it does, I will turn away from the fence. Similarly shall I turn my heart from the sinner.
 
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April 3rd, 2007, 12:23 pm

Here's a quote from another glue-sniffer:QuoteDr. Ross Upshur, director of the Joint Centre for Bioethics at the University of Toronto, said authorities should detain people with drug-resistant tuberculosis if they are uncooperative. "We're on the verge of taking what was a curable disease, one of the best known diseases in human endeavors, and making it incurable," Upshur said. But a paper Upshur co-wrote on the issue in a medical journal earlier this year has been strongly criticized. "Involuntary detention should really be your last resort," Harrington said. "There's a danger that we'll end up blaming the victim."How mushy-headed and synesthetic do you have to be to confuse the physical action of locking someone up with a social gesture? To confuse a concrete box with vibrations on the air?I imagine I could lock up every man alive without once using the word "blame" or even contemplating the concept. Once again I ask, if this guy were pinned under a rock, would he lie there wondering if the rock were really to blame? Or would he push it off?
 
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April 3rd, 2007, 2:28 pm

a rock's an inanimate object
 
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April 3rd, 2007, 2:33 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: zetaa rock's an inanimate objectSo an animate object will be held less responsible, until a convenient inanimate object can be found to blame?Anyway, if you don't believe in God, then everything is an inanimate object.
 
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April 3rd, 2007, 3:09 pm

-- Anyway, if you don't believe in God, then everything is an inanimate object. Pick a god any god. We have got your gods on sale. Nobody will beat our prices. No decent offer will be refused.
 
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April 3rd, 2007, 3:51 pm

I'm sure a monkey could point to a hole in the ground that reminds him of another monkey's naked ass. But the stuff that goes through a dog's head or yours, dibble, doesn't change the fact there is a God who created Heaven and Earth and gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Inanimate objects on the other hand are created dead. But your soul - that would be the "animate" part - passes from this world to the next without any help from Hestia.You just feel as if God has forsaken you, dibble, but He has not. He is greedy for souls, He is like a soul slut who dances with everyone. Your misery is part of His grand plan. Instead of moping around all bitter, maybe you should open your heart and ask to be saved.
 
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April 3rd, 2007, 5:08 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: farmerQuoteOriginally posted by: zetaa rock's an inanimate objectSo an animate object will be held less responsible, until a convenient inanimate object can be found to blame?Anyway, if you don't believe in God, then everything is an inanimate object.Also true if you believe in god and destiny.
 
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April 3rd, 2007, 5:48 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: farmerI'm sure a monkey could point to a hole in the ground that reminds him of another monkey's naked ass. But the stuff that goes through a dog's head or yours, dibble, doesn't change the fact there is a God who created Heaven and Earth and gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Inanimate objects on the other hand are created dead. But your soul - that would be the "animate" part - passes from this world to the next without any help from Hestia.You just feel as if God has forsaken you, dibble, but He has not. He is greedy for souls, He is like a soul slut who dances with everyone. Your misery is part of His grand plan. Instead of moping around all bitter, maybe you should open your heart and ask to be saved.Nice rant, did that come from that monkey's naked ass that you have your eye on
 
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April 4th, 2007, 12:06 pm

QuoteYou just feel as if God has forsaken you, dibble, but He has not. He is greedy for souls, He is like a soul slut who dances with everyone. Your misery is part of His grand plan. Instead of moping around all bitter, maybe you should open your heart and ask to be saved.well when you put it like that, who could refuse? (move over billy graham)farmer why has someone's speculations on free will got your nose out of joint so bad?
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