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May 21st, 2014, 11:25 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: rmaxI always learnt that it was all all bullshit before the but...Yeah, it's not part of the message.There should always be a comma before the but (fulmerspot is correct!) . Synonyms are 1. Having said that <comma>2 <semicolon> However <comma>Technically, is there not a colon behind every but? Implcitly at least. orbla+bla+bla, but ...NOWe had no choice but to leave.They've done nothing but argue all afternoon.He ate nothing but cheese.These examples might be different from OP?e.g. this was a great victory, but another victory like this and we...?
 
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May 21st, 2014, 11:29 am

This is just an advice a friend of mine give me that I like to share with you; you can do whatever you want with it, use it or not.
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May 21st, 2014, 11:35 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: rmaxI always learnt that it was all all bullshit before the but...Yeah, it's not part of the message.There should always be a comma before the but (fulmerspot is correct!) . Synonyms are 1. Having said that <comma>2 <semicolon> However <comma>Technically, is there not a colon behind every but? Implcitly at least. orbla+bla+bla, but ...NOWe had no choice but to leave.They've done nothing but argue all afternoon.He ate nothing but cheese.These examples might be different from OP?e.g. this was a great victory, but another victory like this and we...?indeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the but" without some sort of qualification
 
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May 21st, 2014, 11:38 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: rmaxI always learnt that it was all all bullshit before the but...Yeah, it's not part of the message.There should always be a comma before the but (fulmerspot is correct!) . Synonyms are 1. Having said that <comma>2 <semicolon> However <comma>Technically, is there not a colon behind every but? Implcitly at least. orbla+bla+bla, but ...NOWe had no choice but to leave.They've done nothing but argue all afternoon.He ate nothing but cheese.These examples might be different from OP?e.g. this was a great victory, but another victory like this and we...?indeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the but" without some sort of qualificationHere you go:Quoteindeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the, but" without some sort of qualification
 
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May 21st, 2014, 11:48 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: rmaxI always learnt that it was all all bullshit before the but...Yeah, it's not part of the message.There should always be a comma before the but (fulmerspot is correct!) . Synonyms are 1. Having said that <comma>2 <semicolon> However <comma>Technically, is there not a colon behind every but? Implcitly at least. orbla+bla+bla, but ...NOWe had no choice but to leave.They've done nothing but argue all afternoon.He ate nothing but cheese.These examples might be different from OP?e.g. this was a great victory, but another victory like this and we...?indeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the but" without some sort of qualificationHere you go:Quoteindeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the, but" without some sort of qualificationSo my post become a grammar course about if you have to put comma before but or not ? So to answer to this question is that you have to put a Comma before a Conjunction If It Joins Two Independent Clauses.Example: He is a great swimmer, but he prefers to play golf.("He is a great swimmer." + "He prefers to play golf.")(This is two sentences merged into one with but ? comma required.)And No Comma Necessary for Short ClausesIt is also worth knowing this:If the two "sentences" (known as independent clauses) are very short, it is acceptable ? for style purposes ? to omit the comma.Example: Craig joined the Army but he wanted to joined the Marines Also you can write: Craig joined the Army, but he wanted to joined the Marines
 
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May 21st, 2014, 11:50 am

QuoteSo my post become a grammar course about if you have to put comma before but or not ? Yep. OT is full of grammatici and their disciples. QuoteExample: Craig joined the Army but he wanted to joined the Marines Also you can write: Craig joined the Army, but he wanted to joined the Marines I prefer the first. On the continent (all languages) it isQuoteCraig wanted to joined the Marines, but he joined the Army.The komma is mandatory OKQuoteCraig wanted to joined the Marines; however, he joined the Army.Kiind of BBC2 Newsnight Dundee English.
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May 21st, 2014, 12:02 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: MaosikaSo my post become a grammar course about if you have to put comma before but or not ? So to answer to this question is that you have to put a Comma before a Conjunction If It Joins Two Independent Clauses.Example: He is a great swimmer, but he prefers to play golf.("He is a great swimmer." + "He prefers to play golf.")(This is two sentences merged into one with but ? comma required.)And No Comma Necessary for Short ClausesIt is also worth knowing this:If the two "sentences" (known as independent clauses) are very short, it is acceptable ? for style purposes ? to omit the comma.Example: Craig joined the Army but he wanted to joined the Marines Also you can write: Craig joined the Army, but he wanted to joined the MarinesI wouldn't take it personally because once something gets posted in the OT it is a free for all.
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May 21st, 2014, 12:19 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: MaosikaQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: rmaxI always learnt that it was all all bullshit before the but...Yeah, it's not part of the message.There should always be a comma before the but (fulmerspot is correct!) . Synonyms are 1. Having said that <comma>2 <semicolon> However <comma>Technically, is there not a colon behind every but? Implcitly at least. orbla+bla+bla, but ...NOWe had no choice but to leave.They've done nothing but argue all afternoon.He ate nothing but cheese.These examples might be different from OP?e.g. this was a great victory, but another victory like this and we...?indeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the but" without some sort of qualificationHere you go:Quoteindeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the, but" without some sort of qualificationSo my post become a grammar course about if you have to put comma before but or not ? So to answer to this question is that you have to put a Comma before a Conjunction If It Joins Two Independent Clauses.Example: He is a great swimmer, but he prefers to play golf.("He is a great swimmer." + "He prefers to play golf.")(This is two sentences merged into one with but ? comma required.)And No Comma Necessary for Short ClausesIt is also worth knowing this:If the two "sentences" (known as independent clauses) are very short, it is acceptable ? for style purposes ? to omit the comma.Example: Craig joined the Army but he wanted to joined the Marines Also you can write: Craig joined the Army, but he wanted to joined the MarinesYou've lost me here - why didn't he just join the marine s in the first place?Königspudel (könfused).
 
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May 21st, 2014, 12:22 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: fulmerspotQuoteOriginally posted by: MaosikaQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: rmaxI always learnt that it was all all bullshit before the but...Yeah, it's not part of the message.There should always be a comma before the but (fulmerspot is correct!) . Synonyms are 1. Having said that <comma>2 <semicolon> However <comma>Technically, is there not a colon behind every but? Implcitly at least. orbla+bla+bla, but ...NOWe had no choice but to leave.They've done nothing but argue all afternoon.He ate nothing but cheese.These examples might be different from OP?e.g. this was a great victory, but another victory like this and we...?indeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the but" without some sort of qualificationHere you go:Quoteindeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the, but" without some sort of qualificationSo my post become a grammar course about if you have to put comma before but or not ? So to answer to this question is that you have to put a Comma before a Conjunction If It Joins Two Independent Clauses.Example: He is a great swimmer, but he prefers to play golf.("He is a great swimmer." + "He prefers to play golf.")(This is two sentences merged into one with but ? comma required.)And No Comma Necessary for Short ClausesIt is also worth knowing this:If the two "sentences" (known as independent clauses) are very short, it is acceptable ? for style purposes ? to omit the comma.Example: Craig joined the Army but he wanted to joined the Marines Also you can write: Craig joined the Army, but he wanted to joined the MarinesYou've lost me here - why didn't he just join the marine s in the first place?Königspudel (könfused).You mean, like Village People?
 
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May 21st, 2014, 12:24 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: fulmerspotQuoteOriginally posted by: MaosikaQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: rmaxI always learnt that it was all all bullshit before the but...Yeah, it's not part of the message.There should always be a comma before the but (fulmerspot is correct!) . Synonyms are 1. Having said that <comma>2 <semicolon> However <comma>Technically, is there not a colon behind every but? Implcitly at least. orbla+bla+bla, but ...NOWe had no choice but to leave.They've done nothing but argue all afternoon.He ate nothing but cheese.These examples might be different from OP?e.g. this was a great victory, but another victory like this and we...?indeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the but" without some sort of qualificationHere you go:Quoteindeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the, but" without some sort of qualificationSo my post become a grammar course about if you have to put comma before but or not ? So to answer to this question is that you have to put a Comma before a Conjunction If It Joins Two Independent Clauses.Example: He is a great swimmer, but he prefers to play golf.("He is a great swimmer." + "He prefers to play golf.")(This is two sentences merged into one with but ? comma required.)And No Comma Necessary for Short ClausesIt is also worth knowing this:If the two "sentences" (known as independent clauses) are very short, it is acceptable ? for style purposes ? to omit the comma.Example: Craig joined the Army but he wanted to joined the Marines Also you can write: Craig joined the Army, but he wanted to joined the MarinesYou've lost me here - why didn't he just join the marine s in the first place?Königspudel (könfused).You mean, like Village People?Oh -was one of them called Craig?Königspudel
 
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May 21st, 2014, 12:37 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: fulmerspotQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: fulmerspotQuoteOriginally posted by: MaosikaQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: rmaxI always learnt that it was all all bullshit before the but...Yeah, it's not part of the message.There should always be a comma before the but (fulmerspot is correct!) . Synonyms are 1. Having said that <comma>2 <semicolon> However <comma>Technically, is there not a colon behind every but? Implcitly at least. orbla+bla+bla, but ...NOWe had no choice but to leave.They've done nothing but argue all afternoon.He ate nothing but cheese.These examples might be different from OP?e.g. this was a great victory, but another victory like this and we...?indeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the but" without some sort of qualificationHere you go:Quoteindeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the, but" without some sort of qualificationSo my post become a grammar course about if you have to put comma before but or not ? So to answer to this question is that you have to put a Comma before a Conjunction If It Joins Two Independent Clauses.Example: He is a great swimmer, but he prefers to play golf.("He is a great swimmer." + "He prefers to play golf.")(This is two sentences merged into one with but ? comma required.)And No Comma Necessary for Short ClausesIt is also worth knowing this:If the two "sentences" (known as independent clauses) are very short, it is acceptable ? for style purposes ? to omit the comma.Example: Craig joined the Army but he wanted to joined the Marines Also you can write: Craig joined the Army, but he wanted to joined the MarinesYou've lost me here - why didn't he just join the marine s in the first place?Königspudel (könfused).You mean, like Village People?Oh -was one of them called Craig?KönigspudelThe Swimming Golfer ?
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May 21st, 2014, 1:04 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelQuoteOriginally posted by: fulmerspotQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: fulmerspotQuoteOriginally posted by: MaosikaQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: rmaxI always learnt that it was all all bullshit before the but...Yeah, it's not part of the message.There should always be a comma before the but (fulmerspot is correct!) . Synonyms are 1. Having said that <comma>2 <semicolon> However <comma>Technically, is there not a colon behind every but? Implcitly at least. orbla+bla+bla, but ...NOWe had no choice but to leave.They've done nothing but argue all afternoon.He ate nothing but cheese.These examples might be different from OP?e.g. this was a great victory, but another victory like this and we...?indeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the but" without some sort of qualificationHere you go:Quoteindeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the, but" without some sort of qualificationSo my post become a grammar course about if you have to put comma before but or not ? So to answer to this question is that you have to put a Comma before a Conjunction If It Joins Two Independent Clauses.Example: He is a great swimmer, but he prefers to play golf.("He is a great swimmer." + "He prefers to play golf.")(This is two sentences merged into one with but ? comma required.)And No Comma Necessary for Short ClausesIt is also worth knowing this:If the two "sentences" (known as independent clauses) are very short, it is acceptable ? for style purposes ? to omit the comma.Example: Craig joined the Army but he wanted to joined the Marines Also you can write: Craig joined the Army, but he wanted to joined the MarinesYou've lost me here - why didn't he just join the marine s in the first place?Königspudel (könfused).You mean, like Village People?Oh -was one of them called Craig?KönigspudelThe Swimming Golfer ?Nope - that's not made it clearer, but I suspect my recollection of the Village People may be hazy - I don't remember anyone with armbands and a moustache wielding a club.Königspudel
 
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May 21st, 2014, 1:10 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: fulmerspotQuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelQuoteOriginally posted by: fulmerspotQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: fulmerspotQuoteOriginally posted by: MaosikaQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: rmaxI always learnt that it was all all bullshit before the but...Yeah, it's not part of the message.There should always be a comma before the but (fulmerspot is correct!) . Synonyms are 1. Having said that <comma>2 <semicolon> However <comma>Technically, is there not a colon behind every but? Implcitly at least. orbla+bla+bla, but ...NOWe had no choice but to leave.They've done nothing but argue all afternoon.He ate nothing but cheese.These examples might be different from OP?e.g. this was a great victory, but another victory like this and we...?indeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the but" without some sort of qualificationHere you go:Quoteindeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the, but" without some sort of qualificationSo my post become a grammar course about if you have to put comma before but or not ? So to answer to this question is that you have to put a Comma before a Conjunction If It Joins Two Independent Clauses.Example: He is a great swimmer, but he prefers to play golf.("He is a great swimmer." + "He prefers to play golf.")(This is two sentences merged into one with but ? comma required.)And No Comma Necessary for Short ClausesIt is also worth knowing this:If the two "sentences" (known as independent clauses) are very short, it is acceptable ? for style purposes ? to omit the comma.Example: Craig joined the Army but he wanted to joined the Marines Also you can write: Craig joined the Army, but he wanted to joined the MarinesYou've lost me here - why didn't he just join the marine s in the first place?Königspudel (könfused).You mean, like Village People?Oh -was one of them called Craig?KönigspudelThe Swimming Golfer ?Nope - that's not made it clearer, but I suspect my recollection of the Village People may be hazy - I don't remember anyone with armbands and a moustache wielding a club.KönigspudelThey were all heavy-handed
 
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May 21st, 2014, 2:19 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: MaosikaQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: rmaxI always learnt that it was all all bullshit before the but...Yeah, it's not part of the message.There should always be a comma before the but (fulmerspot is correct!) . Synonyms are 1. Having said that <comma>2 <semicolon> However <comma>Technically, is there not a colon behind every but? Implcitly at least. orbla+bla+bla, but ...NOWe had no choice but to leave.They've done nothing but argue all afternoon.He ate nothing but cheese.These examples might be different from OP?e.g. this was a great victory, but another victory like this and we...?indeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the but" without some sort of qualificationHere you go:Quoteindeed, so it would be inaccurate to say "There should always be a comma before the, but" without some sort of qualificationSo my post become a grammar course about if you have to put comma before but or not ? So to answer to this question is that you have to put a Comma before a Conjunction If It Joins Two Independent Clauses.Example: He is a great swimmer, but he prefers to play golf.("He is a great swimmer." + "He prefers to play golf.")(This is two sentences merged into one with but ? comma required.)And No Comma Necessary for Short ClausesIt is also worth knowing this:If the two "sentences" (known as independent clauses) are very short, it is acceptable ? for style purposes ? to omit the comma.Example: Craig joined the Army but he wanted to joined the Marines Also you can write: Craig joined the Army, but he wanted to joined the Marines"but" can be an adverb as well as a conjunction, as in "life is but a dream"
 
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May 21st, 2014, 3:55 pm

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