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Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 20th, 2019, 12:58 am
by katastrofa
The tragedy of the commons. This topic is like reading Haidt. Yawn!
The beer test is in fact giving way to your frontal cortex. It says a lot about your personality :-) You're intellectually lazy (it's common in intelligent people), don't like overly complex cognitive constructs. You produce short outbursts of genius rather than elaborate answers to complex problems achieved after days of studying their intricacies.
But I've spent a half of the day tearing apart a kitchen in my old flat and I feel like Bruce Banner after transforming back from Hulk... so what do I know.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 20th, 2019, 1:44 am
by bearish
The idea of sending the queen, a living relic of centuries past, to Brussels to plead the case of the Tories is really cute. Of course, compared to Boris, her hair is much nicer...

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 20th, 2019, 1:57 am
by Paul
The tragedy of the commons. This topic is like reading Haidt. Yawn!
The beer test is in fact giving way to your frontal cortex. It says a lot about your personality :-) You're intellectually lazy (it's common in intelligent people), don't like overly complex cognitive constructs. You produce short outbursts of genius rather than elaborate answers to complex problems achieved after days of studying their intricacies.
But I've spent a half of the day tearing apart a kitchen in my old flat and I feel like Bruce Banner after transforming back from Hulk... so what do I know.
Sounds 100% correct. (Am not sure about the reasoning though.) People write books about the benefits of not overthinking, so I’m told. I haven’t read them.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 20th, 2019, 7:46 pm
by ISayMoo
People may be nice beer buddies but useless as leaders, though.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 20th, 2019, 8:48 pm
by Paul
I don’t think Cuch was expressing any opinion about the leadership skills of French politicians vs 18-year old soldiers. But if the soldier makes it to 21 then I would have an opinion.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 20th, 2019, 9:19 pm
by katastrofa
The idea of sending the queen, a living relic of centuries past, to Brussels to plead the case of the Tories is really cute. Of course, compared to Boris, her hair is much nicer...
The queen's mere noblesse oblige makes her better qualified for the job than the great unbrushed.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 20th, 2019, 9:49 pm
by bearish
My first encounter with the term "noblesse oblige" was in an early Agaton Sax book, and it left me confused. I was probably 12 at the time, and Norway (unlike Sweden) had not have native nobility for centuries. 

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 20th, 2019, 9:59 pm
by katastrofa
I think I've read this word in some dictionary and remembered it, because it sounds like a name of a French dessert.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 21st, 2019, 6:13 pm
by ISayMoo
My first encounter with the term "noblesse oblige" was in an early Agaton Sax book, and it left me confused. I was probably 12 at the time, and Norway (unlike Sweden) had not have native nobility for centuries. 
Did it ever had any?

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 21st, 2019, 6:54 pm
by bearish
Yes, although it's unclear to me exactly how the local version of the concept maps to the continental and/or British versions. There seems to have been a peak in the late middle ages, on the tail end of and following the viking era, with various earls, barons, knights and squires having been granted the right to land as well as some power to tax "their" people. The 1500's was not a good time for Norwegian nobility (the Danish king didn't care for them), but then there was a bit of a resurgence in the 1600's. They were pretty much banned by the Nobility Law of 1821, although with a phasing out period of a couple of generations.

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 22nd, 2019, 2:23 pm
by Cuchulainn
I don’t think Cuch was expressing any opinion about the leadership skills of French politicians vs 18-year old soldiers. But if the soldier makes it to 21 then I would have an opinion.
I don't mind them if they don't block traffic. 

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 23rd, 2019, 12:01 pm
by ISayMoo

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 24th, 2019, 3:14 pm
by katastrofa
'No ifs, no buts - out on 31 October'

Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 24th, 2019, 3:52 pm
by Cuchulainn
'No ifs, no buts - out on 31 October'
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Re: Are you ready for Brexit?

Posted: July 24th, 2019, 3:53 pm
by Cuchulainn
'No ifs, no buts - out on 31 October'
Ambiguous!!!
31 October 2019