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ISayMoo
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 4th, 2019, 2:53 pm

As it happens, I'm in complete agreement with both of you. There is just this nagging question of the alternative...
Boris Johnson is also going on a spending spree, it seems.
 
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 4th, 2019, 5:58 pm

Seems you don't have to be a Leftie to get into a private school

Gangs targeting private schools to traffic Vietnamese girls to Britain, it is revealed

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/1 ... s-britain/

Where @ppauper when you need them?
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 4th, 2019, 6:09 pm

Seems you don't have to be a Leftie to get into a private school
No, indeed you don’t. But you have to pretend to be a leftie if you want your child to have play dates. Lefties are not usually nice people.
 
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 4th, 2019, 8:30 pm

They love

Dire Straits
Tuscany
La Traviata
 
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 4th, 2019, 9:02 pm

And committees. Lots of committees. They find it difficult to make decisions themselves.
 
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 5th, 2019, 5:05 am

They love

Dire Straits
Tuscany
La Traviata
Verdi was a one big rich, privately educated and intelligent... socialist, but you leave La Traviata out of it. (Take La Fuerza del Destino instead, and not the overture - unless you dare to open the door when the destiny is knocking!). Verdi has been politicised and snatched by both left and right. It was possible for one reason: bel canto operas are like myths - on the surface trivial stories, but they speak in metaphors about timeless universal truths people will probably never understand.
La Traviata is about true love; it's not a sad story or a tragedy, as it seems; it has a happy ending - with the sound dying in Violetta's last breath. I can't find my favourite recording on yt, but Maria Callas is good too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4QZFgO1hlM
It's a bit like with reading old scientific books, which treat about the Nature's abundance rather than details. They try to grasp its vastness in parallels and metaphors. It's so much different from what modern pseudoscientists do. As if they put a black hood on their head, like soImage
(sorry for dragging the Guantanamo theme), cut a hole in it and think that the tiny fraction they can see through it is some true discovery. Sad!
(I didn't go completely crazy, only woke up from the sleep.)
 
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 5th, 2019, 4:54 pm

The biggest risk of a private (public school in UK) education is that you learn to copy Latin and Greek exercises (you know, declensions and conjugations) from your peers, At least that's what my public school friends tell me. 

Argumentum hominem peleae.

Caeser ad sum jam for ti,. Sed Brutus passus sum.
 
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 10th, 2019, 4:23 pm

If every Labour voter voluntarily paid an extra 10%, say, in taxes that would make a big difference to public finances. It wouldn’t be a deterrent to work. And they’d have a great way to signal their virtue. Win win.
 
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 10th, 2019, 4:27 pm

I could see it being a deterrent to some people's voting Labour, but I'm going to guess you'd count that as another win.
 
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 10th, 2019, 5:21 pm

"My father was a Conservative and my mother voted Labour so by rights I suppose I should vote Liberal Democrat. But in fact I'm a Nazi. Funny how things turn out. "
 
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 10th, 2019, 5:34 pm

I could see it being a deterrent to some people's voting Labour, but I'm going to guess you'd count that as another win.
“Voluntarily”!?!?! I thought you read every written word very carefully!
 
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 10th, 2019, 6:46 pm

I really like this plan. Leftists can then get angry about the “extreme right wing”* not paying voluntarily. And angry, as I’m sure you know, is what leftists mistake for happy.

* These days “extreme right wing” is anyone who doesn’t want to have their shoelace tying micromanaged by a collective.
 
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 10th, 2019, 7:02 pm

People in the UK have a strange attitude to voluntary service - they seem to appreciate it more when it's done by wealthier people. Some of my voluntary "work" (no virtue signalling here - I wouldn't do it if I didn't like it) involves visiting people's houses. They sometimes seem shocked that I travelled in a first class or a taxi. I feel like I get twice as many brownie points as my worse-off mates, while it should be the other way around...
 
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 10th, 2019, 7:03 pm

I could see it being a deterrent to some people's voting Labour, but I'm going to guess you'd count that as another win.
“Voluntarily”!?!?! I thought you read every written word very carefully!
Yes, despite Gamal's misgivings, I do pay attention to written words. My point was that if voluntarily paying extra taxes were to be part and parcel of voting Labour, some people may reconsider their voting plans. 
 
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Re: You are rich, privately educated and intelligent. So why do you vote Socialist?

November 10th, 2019, 7:08 pm

People in the UK have a strange attitude to voluntary service - they seem to appreciate it more when it's done by wealthier people. Some of my voluntary "work" (no virtue signalling here - I wouldn't do it if I didn't like it) involves visiting people's houses. They sometimes seem shocked that I travelled in a first class or a taxi. I feel like I get twice as many brownie points as my worse-off mates, while it should be the other way around...
I don't actually think that is limited to the UK. Maybe it's an Anglo-Saxon cultural thing, but at least if with "wealthy" you mean somebody with high income (confusing stock and flow concepts, I know, but frequently done), there is the argument that the opportunity cost of your time is high. Of course, that does not necessarily mean that you are well suited for the task at hand, as I have learnt first hand. There are so many things that I'm bad at, especially those involving physical work.