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by brontosaurus
August 13th, 2010, 2:55 pm
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Topic: Stolen Childhoods of Gaza Children
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Stolen Childhoods of Gaza Children

not at all Fermion. Israel has been pretty open about the mis-use of Phosphurus, and has said it won't use it again. But I was responding to Amin's point about HRW's integrity, which has been compromised, though I am sure you will try not to notice that.
by brontosaurus
August 13th, 2010, 2:28 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>This one is for Amin:QuoteA delegation from Human Rights Watch was recently in Saudi Arabia. To investigate the mistreatment of women under Saudi Law? To campaign for the rights of homosexuals, subject to the death penalty in Saudi Arabia? To protest the lack of religious freedom in the Saudi Kin...
by brontosaurus
August 13th, 2010, 2:15 pm
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Topic: Stolen Childhoods of Gaza Children
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Stolen Childhoods of Gaza Children

<t>QuoteOriginally posted by: AminAfter all Human Rights Watch report was not a lie.Ummm, perhaps you should check out how Human Rights Watch raise money in Saudi Arabia for the fight against Israel. Fundraising Corruption at HRWQuoteIn other words, yes, the director of Human Rights Watch's Middle E...
by brontosaurus
August 13th, 2010, 2:05 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

the answer is you do what is best for you.
by brontosaurus
August 12th, 2010, 9:54 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

you can waste a lifetime waiting for 'knowledge to come'.
by brontosaurus
August 12th, 2010, 5:16 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>MarsdenI have had a lot of contact with Christians in Israel, and whilst I am sure that most of them do believe their theology to be more complete than Jewish theology, (and why wouldn't they -- they are Christians after all), they are not here to convert. The existence of the State of Israel cre...
by brontosaurus
August 12th, 2010, 3:58 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>QuoteOriginally posted by: MarsdenSo anyway, in the absence of an answer from bronto about how he expects Israel's situation to play out, the historical Israeli attitude toward their crimes against the Palestinians was, "The old will die, the young will forget."So far, that ain't working out so w...
by brontosaurus
August 12th, 2010, 3:52 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

QuoteOriginally posted by: MarsdenSo anyway, in the absence of an answer from bronto about how he expects Israel's situation to play outEh?? Where was the question?
by brontosaurus
August 12th, 2010, 3:50 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelQuoteOriginally posted by: HamiltonQuoteJewish resistance was like the French resistance - one of the those things that get smaller the closer you get to it.Tell you what. Go visit Sir Martin Gilbert's website, a leading holocaust historian. Discuss this thesis...
by brontosaurus
August 12th, 2010, 3:06 am
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>QuoteOriginally posted by: zerdnaQuoteStrap on some explosive, walk into a crowded Nazi office and take a few of them out ?Through reading about suicide bombing I cannot remember a case when a Palestinian went into a military or otherwise non civilian establishment and blew it up. It always seeme...
by brontosaurus
August 11th, 2010, 4:39 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>QuoteOriginally posted by: FermionI do not need convincing that anti-Semitism was high in the Nazi ideology as it was everywhere in Europe and there's no question the Nazis took it to genocidal extremes. But one does not need to elevate it above the extermination of socialists, Slavs and gypsies ...
by brontosaurus
August 11th, 2010, 4:01 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelQuoteOriginally posted by: brontosaurusQuoteOriginally posted by: frenchXAnd you know there were the jews who were deported but also the roms (almost exterminated), the homosexuals, the communists, the disabled, the resistants, and so on ...frenchX you are corr...
by brontosaurus
August 11th, 2010, 3:57 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>QuoteOriginally posted by: rmaxI am not sure that the regime in Germany saw the genocide of the jews as #1 priority over and above the other undermenschen. I don't think it is quite as simple as this:1. The first people to be murdered were disabled (mental then physical - they used to put them in...
by brontosaurus
August 10th, 2010, 9:25 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>QuoteOriginally posted by: frenchXi was awaiting this topic for a moment. the french collaboration...Sure there were Pétain and Papon a lot moreQuoteFrance's highest court has recognized the state's responsibility for deporting Jews during the Second World War.The Council of State said Monday the...
by brontosaurus
August 10th, 2010, 9:05 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>QuoteOriginally posted by: frenchXAnd you know there were the jews who were deported but also the roms (almost exterminated), the homosexuals, the communists, the disabled, the resistants, and so on ...frenchX you are correct that the Jews were not the only minority to be targetted for death by t...
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