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by brontosaurus
August 10th, 2010, 9:02 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

You don't like pictures, Daveangel, because they inconvenience your narrative.
by brontosaurus
August 10th, 2010, 5:45 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelQuoteOriginally posted by: HamiltonQuotePersonally, I would rather fight and die than be shipped off like a sheep to be slaughtered.Dave, Dave, Dave. You still don't get it do you? A suicide bomb isn't about "fighting and dying". Its about "Terror and Dying"Sui...
by brontosaurus
August 10th, 2010, 4:23 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>QuoteOriginally posted by: AminQuote I don't know exactly why 40 palestinians die for every Israeli and i don't know where this statistics is coming from and what bodies are counted and by whoIt comes from here. B'Tselem which is run by Israelis.I got it from here. Israelis_killed_by_Palestinians...
by brontosaurus
August 10th, 2010, 3:48 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>Yes it must be true. England and Pakistan do treat their minorities the same way.England does oppress non-Christians: Hindus are barred from certain jobs, Jews cannot run for office, Muslims cannot worship openly. It is a terrible place to be a non-Christian. Awful. So glad you brought that my at...
by brontosaurus
August 9th, 2010, 5:03 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>I grew up in the UK which is a Christian country and obviously I have no issue with that, because that country afforded me total freedom and equal rights. There has even been a Jewish Prime Minister. Does that sound shocking to you? It shouldn't. But again you misrepresent. The fate of Christians...
by brontosaurus
August 9th, 2010, 4:37 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>So you keep saying. And yet I am more inclined to believe that you are willingly influenced by the massive propaganda that focuses on Israel only. I bet you didn't even know about what happened in Lebanon to those Palestinians. Or that in 2009 materials that allow for rehabilitating water supplie...
by brontosaurus
August 9th, 2010, 3:44 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

Quotesince facts and reality are hard to come by in these discussions...well that first map didn't really help.
by brontosaurus
August 9th, 2010, 3:16 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>In 2009 Israel eased restrictions on the materials needed for improving water distribution.I think that your claim is similar to those exaggerations mentioned by Khaled Abdel Shaafi, below. Funny Mars, when a Palestinian refugee camps are surrounded by tanks and the supply of goods restricted by ...
by brontosaurus
August 9th, 2010, 1:28 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>QuoteReports that as many as 50 per cent of children are suffering from malnutrition are exaggerations, says Khaled Abdel Shaafi, director the United Nations Development Program."This is not a humanitarian crisis," he said. "It's an economic crisis, a political crisis, but it's not a humanitarian...
by brontosaurus
August 9th, 2010, 1:56 am
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>QuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarWill look for a similar, but more recent, map tomorrowThe one small, irrelevant difference trackstar will see when she posts a more "recent" (like 2004) map, is that there are no Jewish settlements there. I know it is a trivial matter, hardly worth noting reall...
by brontosaurus
August 9th, 2010, 12:45 am
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Topic: Tony Judt, RIP
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Tony Judt, RIP

<t>From Amazon.com QuoteIntellectuals, virtually by definition, are expected to think for themselves. But the spectacle of intellectuals subordinating their independence of mind to dogmatic ideologies, whether left or right, is dismayingly common in the 20th century. The French call it la trahison d...
by brontosaurus
August 9th, 2010, 12:44 am
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Topic: Tony Judt, RIP
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Tony Judt, RIP

<t>QuoteTony Judt has died.We never met, he and I, though over the years we had a few civil e-mail exchanges, even at the height of his quarrel with Israel. A few months ago I sort of reviewed his magnificent Postwar: A History of Europe Since 1945. Afterwords we had a last brief e-mail exchange, wh...
by brontosaurus
August 6th, 2010, 8:01 am
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Topic: The Redistribution of Wealth
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The Redistribution of Wealth

<t>Anthis, a child's best environment is the school, but it certainly not the natural environment in a third world country. If corporations can convince consumers that they are indeed improving the lot of these people, I am for it. Charity is important, but you can't run an economy that way. I favor...
by brontosaurus
August 3rd, 2010, 6:35 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

<t>QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaDid he judge the righteousness of others?Of course he did.QuoteYou ask, what is our policy? I will say: It is to wage war, by sea, land and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us: to wage war against a monstrous tyranny, never...
by brontosaurus
August 3rd, 2010, 5:16 pm
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Topic: Israel and its Critics
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Israel and its Critics

QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaGiven that absolutists are more likely to kill and mistreat other people who don't adhere to the absolutist's particular codes, I conclude that righteousness is unrighteous.Was Churchill an absolutist Traden?
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