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Re: FIVE years from now: can you predict the Software Landscape in anno 2023?

June 14th, 2020, 9:36 am

I have been arguing since 1990 that Science is storing up some real problems for the future. The vast majority of scientific results involving significant computation are unquestionably tainted by unquantifiable software errors. The continuing widespread occurrence of software failures and lack of a scientific discipline for handling them, makes this unpleasant conclusion inevitable. Things might finally be changing for the better but we have a lot to do.

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This state of affairs is not new; before the age of computers mathematical physicists had to rely on log tables that were riddled with errors. Weird and fallacious theories were invented and modified to fit the data (see [22]). There is no reason to believe that the COVID-19 software is any better in this respect.

[22] H. H. Goldstine 1977 A History of Numerical Analysis from the 16th through the 19th Century Springer.
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Re: FIVE years from now: can you predict the Software Landscape in anno 2023?

June 14th, 2020, 10:25 am

You are not wrong.
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Re: FIVE years from now: can you predict the Software Landscape in anno 2023?

June 15th, 2020, 2:12 pm

You are not wrong.
This article is suggesting C/C++ is "unsafe", but without being specific about it.
Can you please explain why it is (would be?) so?
I mean it doesn't make sense to me. Some specific uses of C/C++ (or any other programming language) can probably bring problems, but the programming language itself cannot be unsafe. Right? (note this message was not sponsored by US NRA).
 
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Re: FIVE years from now: can you predict the Software Landscape in anno 2023?

June 15th, 2020, 3:00 pm

You are not wrong.
This article is suggesting C/C++ is "unsafe", but without being specific about it.
Can you please explain why it is (would be?) so?
I mean it doesn't make sense to me. Some specific uses of C/C++ (or any other programming language) can probably bring problems, but the programming language itself cannot be unsafe. Right? (note this message was not sponsored by US NRA).
Maybe Rust is for programmers who can't handle C++, just like autos.

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Re: FIVE years from now: can you predict the Software Landscape in anno 2023?

September 9th, 2020, 7:54 pm

C++20 is currently in its final approval process. C++20 unanimously passed its final technical approval ballot on September 4, 2020, and is expected to be formally published toward the end of 2020 after we finish a final round of editorial work.
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Re: FIVE years from now: can you predict the Software Landscape in anno 2525?

October 1st, 2020, 6:10 pm

Back to the old days.

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Re: FIVE hundred years from now: can you predict the Software Landscape in anno 2525?

October 1st, 2020, 7:14 pm

I like the scenario that we transfer all experts with their know-how and experience to a skansen, and delegate all the serious stuff to an AI algo. Professors and post-docs from western unis work constantly to improve the AI algo by training it to distinguish photos of cats and dogs. The rest of the society is required to have at least one of those pets and upload their photos to the Internet every day. Doesn't it sound familiar?
 
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October 1st, 2020, 7:47 pm

I like the scenario that we transfer all experts with their know-how and experience to a skansen, and delegate all the serious stuff to an AI algo. Professors and post-docs from western unis work constantly to improve the AI algo by training it to distinguish photos of cats and dogs. The rest of the society is required to have at least one of those pets and upload their photos to the Internet every day. Doesn't it sound familiar?
An image of the future?

I would bring back tape units, then you know it is a real computer.

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Re: FIVE hundred years from now: can you predict the Software Landscape in anno 2525?

October 1st, 2020, 9:57 pm

You look like a typical BOFH in that photo ;-)
 
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October 2nd, 2020, 12:14 am

Imagine, Jeremy Clarkson driving in a Peel.

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October 2nd, 2020, 1:30 pm

Imagine, Jeremy Clarkson driving in a Peel.

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Was it an attempt to endear himself to the people of Manx? Of course, you know the story about his lighthouse near Castletown and his sneering review of the excellent Manx cuisine. 
In that show he made remarks about Fiona Bruce's legs.
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October 2nd, 2020, 1:39 pm

You look like a typical BOFH in that photo ;-)
It was a great time, oil people were the jet-setters! This was a great team.
A situation like that does tempt amateurs, but you know they can't stay the course like a professional.

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October 2nd, 2020, 2:55 pm

Other characters
  • The PFY (Pimply-Faced Youth, the assistant to the BOFH. Real name is Stephen[6]) Possesses a temperament similar to the BOFH, and often either teams up with or plots against him.
  • The Boss (often portrayed as having no IT knowledge but believing otherwise; identity changes as successive bosses are sacked, leave, are committed, or have nasty "accidents")
  • CEO of the company — The PFY's uncle Brian[7] from 1996 until 2000, when the BOFH and PFY moved to a new company.[8]
  • The Head of IT, almost as disposable as the Boss.[citation needed]
  • The help desk operators, referred to as the "Helldesk" and often scolded for giving out the BOFH's personal number.
  • The Boss's secretary, Sharon.
  • The security department [9]
  • George, the cleaner (an invaluable source of information to the BOFH and PFY)[10]
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Re: FIVE hundred years from now: can you predict the Software Landscape in anno 2525?

November 5th, 2020, 4:26 am

Machine learning and AI could negate any human discussion on software probably. And who knows what Elon Musk will leave behind
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