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"The collapse of the .net ecosystem"

August 23rd, 2015, 1:01 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: outruncollapse is now imminent: COBOL Comes To Visual Studio 2015This is very worrying, indeed. Thanks for the update.
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"The collapse of the .net ecosystem"

August 23rd, 2015, 1:42 pm

Great stuff, hope it fully interops with COBOL ON COGS!
 
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August 23rd, 2015, 3:12 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: PolterGreat stuff, hope it fully interops with COBOL ON COGS!Using interfaces and delegates?;)
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August 24th, 2015, 9:45 am

Although I have written a formal opinion for The Register that Windows has more yesterdays than tommorrows these things are slow.I also say this about Java, so one must be careful about where to jump and the right time scale to exit.Many argue with me about Java, because they see the truly vast amount of Java employment and again this will take decades to fade.But...It's bog standard supply and demand. The supply of Java skills is increasing rapidly, now being the dominant language in undergrad education and many have done it as teenagers.That means supply/demand is getting weaker for those with Java skills.Also of course, skilled labour has huge lags in it, last month I was asked to help someone with a tech I had not touched in ten years, but still could hack my way through.So you're competing with the area under the curve and nowadays that's literally tens of millions with Java.It is even affecting the .NET market which is led by C# which is close enough to Java that you can move across without too much pain.Note the jump in outrun's graph, I don't know what caused it, but the general evolution is more of less the opposite of equities, ie drifts down and jumps up. This is because very few events will cause C# (or Java or F#, or Matlab) skills to jump down, but a technology suddenly becoming fasionable or useful can be quite quick. MS will at some point do something that boosts .NET, possibly IoT, maybe somehow getting a good chunk of the mobile market, or something. It will happen and it will be good for .NETters and of course it will fade because all skills do, the vartiable is rate.
 
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August 24th, 2015, 10:19 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: outruncollapse is now imminent: COBOL Comes To Visual Studio 2015is it good/bad ?
 
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August 24th, 2015, 2:05 pm

QuoteI'm just remembering back when Java was the cool new thing, and I bought some of the first available books on it. Things have changed in the past fifteen years.
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August 25th, 2015, 4:42 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: PolterGreat stuff, hope it fully interops with COBOL ON COGS!Using interfaces and delegates?;)And bridges for Node.js!
 
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August 25th, 2015, 5:02 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: PolterQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: PolterGreat stuff, hope it fully interops with COBOL ON COGS!Using interfaces and delegates?;)And bridges for Node.js!Collapse is imminent.
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August 25th, 2015, 7:06 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: outrunQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: PolterQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: PolterGreat stuff, hope it fully interops with COBOL ON COGS!Using interfaces and delegates?;)And bridges for Node.js!Collapse is imminent.Indeed. HP just reported that its notebook unit sales were down 3% and desktop unit sales were down 20%. And Gartner said last month that worldwide PC shipments fell 9.5% year-on-year marking the steepest decline since the third quarter of 2013.
 
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August 25th, 2015, 7:29 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: outrunQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: PolterQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: PolterGreat stuff, hope it fully interops with COBOL ON COGS!Using interfaces and delegates?;)And bridges for Node.js!Collapse is imminent.Indeed. HP just reported that its notebook unit sales were down 3% and desktop unit sales were down 20%. And Gartner said last month that worldwide PC shipments fell 9.5% year-on-year marking the steepest decline since the third quarter of 2013.Well, at least there's Tuesday Rebound, so, there's that!...oh.
 
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August 26th, 2015, 4:00 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: PolterQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: outrunQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: PolterQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: PolterGreat stuff, hope it fully interops with COBOL ON COGS!Using interfaces and delegates?;)And bridges for Node.js!Collapse is imminent.Indeed. HP just reported that its notebook unit sales were down 3% and desktop unit sales were down 20%. And Gartner said last month that worldwide PC shipments fell 9.5% year-on-year marking the steepest decline since the third quarter of 2013.Well, at least there's Tuesday Rebound, so, there's that!...oh.
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