QuoteOriginally posted by: OrbitQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnSorry to hear that, Orbit. I do have experience with VisiCalc on Apple II and Fortran add-ins. And it works in Windows and DOS.Seriously, what are you using Excel for? Not a glorified database? DLL hell? // Windows 8 look awful.Visicalc! I actually remember using that, I'll spare you the details but I managed to convince someone that using VisiCalc would be better than keeping books on old-fashioned ledger paper. Anyways mostly I use excel for reporting purposes, it's a very nice tool to slice and dice data because it's all visual. (I also use MATLAB but that's for "real" calculations...)It just seems like software and even OS's are evolved without user feedback - why would they do that? It doesn't make any sense.I, too, love the visual presentation structure of spreadsheets and the auto-recalculation mode of working. It's orders of magnitude faster than the procedural language method of edit, recompile, get compiler errors, edit, recompile, run, review results, add debugging statements, edit, recompile, ...... I'd rather make a change and instantly see the results (and all intermediate variables).At some level, app and OS design is being driven by the marketing department who insist that things look "new" rather than get better.