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Re: Trump - the first 100 days

April 21st, 2017, 12:36 pm

and the haters still hate
Psychiatrists meet at Yale, claim president is mentally ill
A group of psychiatrists meeting at Yale Thursday says President Donald Trump is so mentally unstable that he's unfit for office.
(snip)
"We have an ethical responsibility to warn the public about Donald Trump's dangerous mental illness," said Dr. John Gartner.
The group has already collected 41,000 signatures calling for President Trump's removal.
They do face some criticism from other experts, however, who say it is dangerous to diagnose someone without meeting or treating them in person.


lol, "criticism from other experts"?
it's a breach of the American psychiatric association's rules
Goldwater Rule
The Goldwater rule is the informal name given to Section 7.3 in the American Psychiatric Association's (APA) code of ethics, which states it is unethical for psychiatrists to give a professional opinion about public figures they have not examined in person, and obtained consent from, to discuss their mental health in public statements. It is named after presidential candidate Barry Goldwater.
The issue arose in 1964 when Fact published the article "The Unconscious of a Conservative: A Special Issue on the Mind of Barry Goldwater." The magazine polled psychiatrists about American Senator Barry Goldwater and whether he was fit to be president. The editor, Ralph Ginzburg, was sued for libel in Goldwater v. Ginzburg where Goldwater won $75,000 (approximately $579,000 today) in damages.

edit: the title "The Unconscious of a Conservative" seems to be an allusion to Goldwater's book "The Conscience of a Conservative," which is credited with laying the foundation for the Reagan Revolution
When several trump-hating psychiatrists did the same thing during the campaign, Dr. Maria Oquendo (president of the APA) reminded members of the Goldwater Rule  in an August 2016 letter, “The unique atmosphere of [the 2016] election cycle may lead some to want to psychoanalyze the candidates. But to do so would not only be unethical, it would be irresponsible.”
 
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Re: Trump - the first 100 days

April 22nd, 2017, 11:01 am

the new surgeon general
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Rear Adm. Sylvia Trent-Adams, who had been the deputy
 
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Re: Trump - the first 100 days

April 22nd, 2017, 12:22 pm

ppauper wrote:
and the haters still hate
Psychiatrists meet at Yale, claim president is mentally ill
A group of psychiatrists meeting at Yale Thursday says President Donald Trump is so mentally unstable that he's unfit for office.
(snip)
"We have an ethical responsibility to warn the public about Donald Trump's dangerous mental illness," said Dr. John Gartner.
The group has already collected 41,000 signatures calling for President Trump's removal.
They do face some criticism from other experts, however, who say it is dangerous to diagnose someone without meeting or treating them in person.


lol, "criticism from other experts"?
it's a breach of the American psychiatric association's rules
Goldwater Rule
The Goldwater rule is the informal name given to Section 7.3 in the American Psychiatric Association's (APA) code of ethics, which states it is unethical for psychiatrists to give a professional opinion about public figures they have not examined in person, and obtained consent from, to discuss their mental health in public statements. It is named after presidential candidate Barry Goldwater.
The issue arose in 1964 when Fact published the article "The Unconscious of a Conservative: A Special Issue on the Mind of Barry Goldwater." The magazine polled psychiatrists about American Senator Barry Goldwater and whether he was fit to be president. The editor, Ralph Ginzburg, was sued for libel in Goldwater v. Ginzburg where Goldwater won $75,000 (approximately $579,000 today) in damages.

edit: the title "The Unconscious of a Conservative" seems to be an allusion to Goldwater's book "The Conscience of a Conservative," which is credited with laying the foundation for the Reagan Revolution
When several trump-hating psychiatrists did the same thing during the campaign, Dr. Maria Oquendo (president of the APA) reminded members of the Goldwater Rule  in an August 2016 letter, “The unique atmosphere of [the 2016] election cycle may lead some to want to psychoanalyze the candidates. But to do so would not only be unethical, it would be irresponsible.”

I thought we at Wilmott agreed that the candidates showed symptoms of "monolog interior" and "streams of consciousness"., 
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