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Re: Fake news

May 2nd, 2018, 12:09 pm

Rumour has it Trump has bought some EUI cars before the embargo; Reminds me of JFK who ordered 1K Cuban cigars the day before his embargo.

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Re: Fake news

June 8th, 2018, 6:13 am

Is this more fake news from the New York Times, which seems to be the worst offender?

From the wiki page of the new Italian prime minister Giuseppe Conte
On his CV (which is linked, in Italian, on the wiki page), Sig Giuseppe includes an entry
dall'anno    2008 all'anno 2012 ha soggiornato, ogni estate e per periodi  non inferiori a un mese, presso la New York University, per perfezionare e aggiornare i  suoi studi
which google translates as
from the year 2008 to the year 2012 has stayed, every summer and for periods not lower a month, at New York University, to refine and update his studies
Notice that (in google's translation) it says "stayed" rather than "studied" or "worked" or "enrolled"

According to wiki,
On 21 May 2018, when the name of Giuseppe Conte was proposed to President Mattarella as candidate for Prime Minister, The New York Times, questioning his summer stays at New York University listed in his official curriculum vitae, published an article asserting that a NYU spokeswoman did not find the name of Conte in university "records as either a student or faculty member".
So the NYT is giving the impression that Sig Conte is a liar.
But it seems that the NYU spokesman went on add something that the NYT chose to leave out:
The next day, the Associated Press, in an article published also by The New York Times, reported that the NYU spokeswoman added that "While Mr. Conte had no official status at NYU, he was granted permission to conduct research in the NYU law library" during the period listed in his official CV.
Oh, so he was there after all?

We seem to get this a lot from the NYT. Someone whom the NYT dislikes says something and the NYT publishes an article disproving something slightly different from the original statement, but fails to point out the difference, in order to give the impression that the person whom they dislike is a liar.
 
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Re: Fake news

June 8th, 2018, 9:51 am

A better word IMO is 'sojourn' 'stayed' is too tepid. But the translation is reasonably accurate. BTW You shouldn't use translate text as evidence.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/soggiornare#Conjugation

Just hanging arround the campus during the long hot summer? Did he get out by degrees?
 
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Re: Fake news

June 8th, 2018, 10:36 am

A better word IMO is 'sojourn' 'stayed' is too tepid. But the translation is reasonably accurate. BTW You shouldn't use translate text as evidence.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/soggiornare#Conjugation

Just hanging arround the campus during the long hot summer? Did he get out by degrees?
sojourn is good.
I'd never heard of this guy before he became PM, and I have no idea whether he spent the summer studying in the law library, or watching girls in the park, but I take offense at the NYT pulling its usual trick of denying something slightly different from what was actually said. They used to do that to President Trump all the time during the 2016 election in their "fact checks" and have continued to do it on a regular basis since President Trump took office
In this instance, the NYT had the additional information about the law library which would have completely changed the story, but chose to leave it out.
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Re: Fake news

June 21st, 2018, 6:33 am

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ABC Apologizes For Graphic Declaring Manafort Pleaded Guilty to Manslaughter

Maybe they're making him the patsy for the Seth Rich murder? (the disgruntled DNC employee who put the DNC files on a thumbdrive and gave them to wikileaks, and was later killed in what was claimed to be a robbery gone wrong, but nothing was stolen)
Mr Manafort worked on the Trump campaign (and had previously worked on the presidential campaigns of Ford, Reagan, Bush 1, and Dole).
There has been no suggestion that he killed anyone.
He has been charged with moneylaundering unrelated to (and long before) the Trump campaign, to which he has pled "not guilty".
 
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Re: Fake news

July 4th, 2018, 6:29 am

fake news from the UN
We had this report from reuters:
America's poor becoming more destitute under Trump: U.N. expert
that's not good :-(
Not so fast:
U.N. Report Faults Trump For Obama Poverty, Media Fall For It
The report cited 18.5 million Americans who live in extreme poverty, and massive U.S. defense spending at the expense of social programs.
Only one problem: As Chuck DeVore, vice president of the Texas Public Policy Foundation, points out, the data on which the study was based came from 2016.
That's right, President Obama's last year. So does that make it "fake news"?
it's actually even worse. Not only is the data from the Obama years, the data is questionable anyway, as discussed in the investors . com link
 
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Re: Fake news

July 28th, 2018, 5:29 am

in the uk
Facebook, Twitter and Google face tech tax to fund fake news crackdown

the problem would be, what exactly is "fake news" and who gets to decide? will there be a Ministry of Truth?

if they want to crack down on extremists, is jeremy corbyn an extremist?
 
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Re: Fake news

August 3rd, 2018, 9:14 am

so national geographic ran a video of a starving polar bear with the caption ‘This is what climate change looks like’ — with ‘climate change’ then highlighted in the brand’s distinctive yellow.

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the bear was on an island in the canadian arctic

National Geographic admits ‘no evidence’ starving polar bear in viral video with 2.5billion views was dying because of climate change
 
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Re: Fake news

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Re: Fake news

August 27th, 2018, 1:48 am

Umm, Breitbart calls out the “far-left network” CNN. Your world is interesting. Actually, I’m writing this from West Virginia (don’t ask why) so there is some evidence to its physical manifestation.
 
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Re: Fake news

August 29th, 2018, 7:10 am

from the bbc

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Chemnitz protests: Germany probes banned Nazi salutes

the pic above was on the BBC Europe page next to the link for the story

At first I thought those were national socialist salutes, then I realised that the fists were clenched, and you see raised fists at most protests

here are some national socialist salutes at an eminem concert
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Re: Fake news

August 29th, 2018, 7:15 am

Umm, Breitbart calls out the “far-left network” CNN. Your world is interesting. Actually, I’m writing this from West Virginia (don’t ask why) so there is some evidence to its physical manifestation.
let's see where CNN falls on the spectrum. It's in the top row of the media bias chart, and yes, the location is far-left


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Re: Fake news

August 29th, 2018, 9:58 am

Umm, Breitbart calls out the “far-left network” CNN. Your world is interesting. Actually, I’m writing this from West Virginia (don’t ask why) so there is some evidence to its physical manifestation.
let's see where CNN falls on the spectrum. It's in the top row of the media bias chart, and yes, the location is far-left


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Why are the hallucinations of Sheryl Attkisson relevant to anything?
 
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Re: Fake news

September 14th, 2018, 12:47 am

Trump says claim Puerto Rico hurricane killed 2,975 people is FAKE after he's hammered for calling relief effort 'unsung success' but Paul Ryan insists there's 'no reason' to question the numbers
The most recent Hurricane Maria death-toll number, 2,975, comes from a computer estimate published last month, rather than a list of specific casualties
Scientists compared overall mortality numbers with a statistical model of how many people would have died on the island if the storm hadn't happened
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The number stood at just 64 at the end of May, when a group of Harvard researchers claimed the real number was 4,600
This is about the hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico, hurricanes Maria and Irma
The usual way of getting a death count from a hurricane is to count the bodies.
The death toll was 64 at the end of May.
Then some harvard yahoos decided that the death toll should be several thousands because that was the excess over the normal mortality rate on the island.
President Trump called the relief effort an "unsung success," and it was: FEMA used an air bridge to rush relief to the island.
And he's being attacked for saying that, because the harvard figures supposedly show that thousands died.

So now we even count the number of dead differently under President Trump to try to make it appear that he botched the relief effort

If you want to count deaths this way, do it for all hurricanes, not just ones during the Trump administration
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