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Re: The Wilmott Philosophy Thread

April 16th, 2018, 8:29 pm

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A high watermark of buzzword driven obscurantism? Object-oriented ontology

Swift warned about this

The Royal Society is also implicated by Gulliver's reference to the language project. The proposal to substitute objects for words is very much like an actual proposal made by Sprat, the historian of the Society. Sprat wanted the Society's reports to be written in a mathematically plain style — a style that would contain pictures of all the things mentioned; the style, therefore, would have almost as many pictures in it as words.

And Laputans ..

The first Project was to shorten Discourse by cutting Polysyllables into one, and leaving out Verbs and Participles, because in reality all things imaginable are but Nouns.
And Frege has a lot to answer for.
 
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Re: The Wilmott Philosophy Thread

April 16th, 2018, 8:39 pm

 it is better to base the structure of software on the objects than on the actions.

Bertrand Meyer.

In true Laputan style.
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Re: The Wilmott Philosophy Thread

April 16th, 2018, 8:44 pm

But top-down design su ers from several faws.
 The method fails to take into account the evolutionary nature of soft-
ware systems.
 The very notion of a system being characterized by one function is
questionable.
 Using the function as the basis often means that the data structure
aspects is neglected.
 Working top-down does not promote reusability.
(Bertrand Meyer 1990)

Untrue, what's missing is the magic word 'system' instead of 'function'.

The OO binary brain cannot tolerate co-existence.

Anno 2018 Top down is parallel task decomposition. Wheel has come round full circle. Developers of all creeds still in bottom-up mode. Sapir-Whorf, again.
 
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Re: The Wilmott Philosophy Thread

April 21st, 2018, 10:25 am

Cuch "The OO binary brain cannot tolerate co-existence."

Not even under Psychic probabilities?  

"The archetype represents psychic probability..." – Carl Jung

"the archetype is nothing else than the probability of psychic events. It is so-to-speak the pictorial presupposed result of a Psychic statistics...." Wolfgang Pauli

Colorful personalities?

What is the best introduction book on psychic probability ?  "Foundations Of Modern Physics" has some on this. 
 
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Re: The Wilmott Philosophy Thread

May 6th, 2018, 4:28 pm

What is "morality"?
 
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Re: The Wilmott Philosophy Thread

May 6th, 2018, 5:00 pm

Cuchulainn wrote:
What is "morality"?

A word.
 
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Re: The Wilmott Philosophy Thread

May 6th, 2018, 5:16 pm

Traden4Alpha wrote:
Cuchulainn wrote:
What is "morality"?

A word.

as you both know Morality needs probability
but it seems like probability is often used without morality.
 
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Re: The Wilmott Philosophy Thread

May 6th, 2018, 5:35 pm

Collector wrote:
Traden4Alpha wrote:
Cuchulainn wrote:
What is "morality"?

A word.

as you both know Morality needs probability
but it seems like probability is often used without morality.

When did probability lose its morality? 
 
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Re: The Wilmott Philosophy Thread

May 6th, 2018, 5:46 pm

Cuchulainn wrote:
Collector wrote:
Traden4Alpha wrote:
A word.

as you both know Morality needs probability
but it seems like probability is often used without morality.

When did probability lose its morality? 

It never had it.
 
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Re: The Wilmott Philosophy Thread

May 6th, 2018, 5:49 pm

Traden4Alpha wrote:
Cuchulainn wrote:
Collector wrote:
as you both know Morality needs probability
but it seems like probability is often used without morality.

When did probability lose its morality? 

It never had it.

Ok, then who put the 'pro' into 'probability'?
 
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Re: The Wilmott Philosophy Thread

May 6th, 2018, 6:05 pm

Cuchulainn wrote:
Traden4Alpha wrote:
Cuchulainn wrote:
When did probability lose its morality? 

It never had it.

Ok, then who put the 'pro' into 'probability'?

Likligr? 
 
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Re: The Wilmott Philosophy Thread

May 6th, 2018, 6:32 pm

Cuchulainn wrote:
Traden4Alpha wrote:
Cuchulainn wrote:
When did probability lose its morality? 

It never had it.

Ok, then who put the 'pro' into 'probability'?

The same folks who put the "babil" in it? (Blame the Romans! They've never done anything for us!)
 
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Re: The Wilmott Philosophy Thread

May 6th, 2018, 6:37 pm

Traden4Alpha wrote:
Cuchulainn wrote:
Traden4Alpha wrote:
It never had it.

Ok, then who put the 'pro' into 'probability'?

The same folks who put the "babil" in it?  (Blame the Romans! They've never done anything for us!)

And we even haven't gotten to 'ability' yet.
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