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Re: Need Help: Vegetarian Recipes

Posted: January 9th, 2019, 7:14 am
by katastrofa
:-)

Re: Need Help: Vegetarian Recipes

Posted: January 11th, 2019, 10:30 am
by katastrofa

Re: Need Help: Vegetarian Recipes

Posted: March 12th, 2019, 5:51 pm
by katastrofa
Do not unjustly eat fish the water has given up,
And do not desire as food the flesh of slaughtered animals,
Or the white milk of mothers who intended its pure draught
for their young, not noble ladies.
And do not grieve the unsuspecting birds by taking eggs;
for injustice is the worst of crimes.
And spare the honey which the bees get industriously
from the flowers of fragrant plants;
For they did not store it that it might belong to others,
Nor did they gather it for bounty and gifts.
I washed my hands of all this; and wish that I
Perceived my way before my hair went grey!

Abul 'Ala Al-Ma'arri (December 973 - May 1057) philosopher, poet, and writer born in Syria

Re: Need Help: Vegetarian Recipes

Posted: March 12th, 2019, 6:39 pm
by Paul
I think vegans are playing this brilliantly. That’s comparing them with various ism-ists that have been getting more publicity for longer, but who have turned people off by aggression. It’s got to help that the Animal Lib nutters seem to be quiet. (Or is everyone else just noisier?)

As long as they keep emphasizing the food, the health benefits, and, gently, the ethics then I am sure that most people will mostly be vegan faster than you might think.

I just hope that the gluten-free, imaginary-allergy, and especially the anti-vax, brigades don’t coattail the vegans.

Re: Need Help: Vegetarian Recipes

Posted: March 12th, 2019, 9:21 pm
by Cuchulainn
My main worry going forward is foreign chickens crossing the border on their way to the South.

Re: Need Help: Vegetarian Recipes

Posted: March 12th, 2019, 10:14 pm
by katastrofa
But I just posted a poem. I don't give a damn about "most people". Why everything a vegan person says is seen as an indoctrination attempt?
Over the years I've been writing about health benefits of a plant-based diet and the whole "Drink milk!" scam (mostly because I had an opportunity to work on related subjects) or about environmental impacts of meat and dairy industry, just as I write about physics or statistics. I never tried to press anything on anyone - perhaps you felt the pressure of facts ;-) For example, I bought a plastic bottle of water today. I know that it won't decompose in 500 years. It will float in the ocean next to car tires killing whales and chocking phytoplankton, all that stopping the biological pump. The whole CO2 will stay in the atmosphere. My children (assuming I will find the right genetic material, with whose carrier I will have them) and at least 15 generations of their descendants will suffer from my plastic bottle (recycling wouldn't change anything - AFAIR it can be done up to 3 times). Does saying that make me aggressive or is it just an upsetting fact we'd rather not talk about? And if I need to explain such obvious facts to someone, they are probably too stupid to understand them anyway.

Regarding preaching veganism, it's an ideology and I believe as such it needs to be developed individually, based on one's morals. AFAIK morals cannot be transferred between people like knowledge.

End of rant.

Re: Need Help: Vegetarian Recipes

Posted: March 12th, 2019, 10:34 pm
by Paul
You misunderstood me. You are the perfect example of the right way to present your case, in a way that might persuade people.

But I really like milk!

Re: Need Help: Vegetarian Recipes

Posted: March 12th, 2019, 10:59 pm
by katastrofa
Sorry, my vegan hypersensitivity :-)

I used to like milk, but after so many years of eating plants its smell makes me feel nauseated. I like oatmilk and cranachans.

Re: Need Help: Vegetarian Recipes

Posted: March 13th, 2019, 11:40 am
by katastrofa

Re: Need Help: Vegetarian Recipes

Posted: March 17th, 2019, 1:49 am
by katastrofa