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Book Club

March 13th, 2020, 8:42 pm

If we are all going to be indoors for the next few months we should start a book club.

Our first book is farmer’s www.seminolescam.com. Available online, you don’t even need to interact with the Amazon delivery man.
 
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Re: Book Club

March 13th, 2020, 8:58 pm

Good idea. I'm in.
 
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Re: Book Club

March 13th, 2020, 9:09 pm

any books made of reasonably soft paper? preferably a thick book, I like never ending stories!
 
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Re: Book Club

March 13th, 2020, 9:48 pm

Read Matthew 24:7. And say your prayers, sinners.
Step over the gap, not into it. Watch the space between platform and train.
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Re: Book Club

March 14th, 2020, 8:26 am

Good idea. I'm in.
Only read a few chapters. Not easy on a screen. But very enjoyable so far. A sort of primitive noir. (Meant in a good way.)
 
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Re: Book Club

March 19th, 2020, 4:44 pm

Only read a few chapters. Not easy on a screen. But very enjoyable so far. A sort of primitive noir. (Meant in a good way.)

It's a murder mystery, along the lines of "The Big Sleep." But with actual physical evidence from a real event. From section III page 63:

Smolarek said she "perceived" that blood would be on the outside of a glove. What she means is if an idiot begins by imagining a person wearing gloves murdered someone, then there would be blood on his hands like the idiot remembers from "Macbeth" in 10th-grade English class. In "Macbeth" the doors to Duncan's chamber were even unlocked, like Mandi supposedly left Mulrenin's door unlocked for the murder! Great student, that Smolarek.

But Lady Macbeth did not use a gun. And unlike gloves at the OJ trial or in murder mysteries, the gloves presented as having been found with Mulrenin's blood were most likely inside out. If you assume the prosecution's narrative is true, there is literally no reason or occasion for Scott Love to get a glove covered in blood. Much less the inside of a glove. Much less while his boots and jeans and "don't tread on me" shirt have zero blood.

The amount of blood supposedly found on the glove could only come from directly feeling the wound. The most likely person to heavily touch the wound is Mulrenin feeling his own wound. And since gloves are taken off inside out, a bloody glove would come from a person who heavily touched the wound, then decided to put a glove on his bloody hand. Basic physical evidence says a glove with a lot of Mulrenin's blood on the inside was most likely worn by Mulrenin himself.

It is only if you know Jackson, that you can additionally speculate she might touch Mulrenin's wound. Because Jackson is not shy to tend to guys, and is eager to make herself useful, and treats all guys like a little brother.

If you take advantage of the evidence to try to discover what happened, there is a lot it can tell you. But Smolarek threw away this opportunity, and instead destroyed evidence to make it fit a story she read in 10th grade. With my angel baby from the Starlite Motel cast as Lady Macbeth. Seminole County is a planet of apes.

Jackson basically admitted to me that she bound the wound. She didn't disagree with me when I wrote that to her in a letter. But she disagreed with my accusation that Love left, or planted, the gloves in her car to incriminate her. She only accepted my alternate theory that police planted the three loose gloves in her car.

So why did Jackson and/or Mulrenin use three gloves? The torn glove in the group of three, from car search photo 121, got stuck to the duct tape bandage.
 
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Re: Book Club

March 19th, 2020, 6:28 pm

 shades of true detective and life in the gulf/bayous ... sure beats netflix right now
 
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Re: Book Club

March 19th, 2020, 6:47 pm

Only read a few chapters. Not easy on a screen. But very enjoyable so far. A sort of primitive noir. (Meant in a good way.)

It's a murder mystery, along the lines of "The Big Sleep." But with actual physical evidence from a real event. From section III page 63:
I can imagine it set in The Simpson's universe, with Homer Simpson replacing Bogart as as Marlow.
 
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March 19th, 2020, 6:56 pm

 nice reference ... here's my favorite from the ever prescient simpsons right now : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liiVX55tJ7E
 
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Re: Book Club

March 19th, 2020, 11:07 pm

A nice intro to the history of mathematics, from ancient to modern times:
Mathematical Thought From Ancient to Modern Times in 3 volumes
(Not for professional mathematicians.)
 
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Re: Book Club

March 21st, 2020, 8:53 am

I can imagine it set in The Simpson's universe, with Homer Simpson replacing Bogart as as Marlow.

It is in the Simpson's universe. That's what made the book worth writing. It's like if Moe Szyslak and Barney Gumble were gay, and they framed Ralph Wiggum for murder. It's like if Mr. Burns were unemployed and liked child pornography.

You didn't know that such low people could actually exist and form a functional mass in the real world. That is why I thought it was a story that I had to record and tell. It is shocking that a place like Seminole County actually exists and such low people operate there. It's sort of a "Lord of the Flies" with adults.

I even have a passage "the lowest people on Earth." Unfortunately I jammed all these passages together in six weeks, so none of them individually is as artful as I would like.


Often the passage of time is needed to gain perspective, and appreciate the historic nature of events, which at the time seemed almost nothing. The use of statements of Kaylee Simmons in a murder trial, and the money and the energy and the lives spent over statements that came from the mouth of one of the the most useless and unfortunate examples of 46 chromosomes ever created by God, and the weight they were given at the intersection of so many people's lives, is one of the lowest moments in recorded history.

Kaylee was a child sex-abuse victim and underage hooker, but somehow managed to attract interest from people with an even lower use for her. She went from being used by some old guy in her family, to being used by strangers in motel rooms, but that wasn't the bottom. Then she met the government employees of Seminole County, and that was the bottom. That is as low as a person can go, the most a human being can be demeaned at least in the United States.

At some point in 2019, Mandi's lawyers asked for the recorded phone calls of Kaylee Simmons. I guess the State Attorney's office was angry about it. Because while the state is obligated to provide them, the statements of Kaylee Simmons are beneath anyone wasting their time on, other than for those patronized rubes on the jury to take the life of another brain-damaged tramp. It is beneath the importance of the crude mammals that work in the state attorney's office to bother with the phone calls of Kaylee Simmons.

I remember the day some mediocre woman came behind me in Seminole courtroom 5D, to yap with displeasure over Mandi Jackson's lawyers requesting the recorded statements of Kaylee Simmons.  Going to that courtroom, and witnessing an adult female employed by the taxpayer, expend such calories over nonsense statements with no bearing on reality of half-retard Kaylee Simmons, is lower than going to the zoo. Going to that courtroom, and observing such low behavior of a woman concerning her day with the statements of Kaylee Simmons, is like watching cows eat grass from an airplane.

Committing crimes against young girls like Mandi Jackson is as common as rain in human history. But there is always some rational incentive, whether sexual, or the general incentives of war. And the pursuit of common incentives such as kidnap and rape, was weighed against the risk of being burned alive. Coercing nonsense statements from a half-retard to keep a sick fat girl locked in a box, for no incentive but only from being dumb as bricks and evil, I believe is a unique event. Committing this against a young girl Mandi Jackson for no incentive worth recording but only stupidity, is an aberration in human history, a new low point.

It is well suited to the participants. For some people, winning a football game in high school was a high point. For some people, getting a job feeding monkeys at the zoo is a high point. For people like Mira Berry, who really did nothing for Kaylee Simmons who was left to fend for herself, being a bystanding stooge for the coercion of perjury from and against indigent incompetents, is probably the high point of a life and career.
 
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Re: Book Club

April 11th, 2020, 10:55 pm

Now that we are all stocked up on food and settling into the groove of SD, could revisit the Book Club.

Before one of us morphs into a modern version of Jack Torrance. Let's read Seminole Scam by farmer.
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Re: Book Club

April 12th, 2020, 1:42 am

"You didn't know that such low people could actually exist and form a functional mass in the real world. "

I don't need extra education on the kinds of functional or dysfunctional scum inhabiting this planet, but I understand the Southern Gothic genre wasn't born from nothing.
Who knows, maybe you'll be another Carsen McCullens? You already have a funny hairstyle.
 
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Re: Book Club

April 12th, 2020, 2:56 pm

I don't need extra education on the kinds of functional or dysfunctional scum inhabiting this planet, but I understand the Southern Gothic genre wasn't born from nothing.
Who knows, maybe you'll be another Carsen McCullens? You already have a funny hairstyle.
You dislike the narrator. You have an emotional reaction to the narrator. That is positive feedback, because you are not meant to like the narrator. It was all worthwhile if I managed to reach just one person (outside the characters named in the book).

I was thinking more Diane Chamberlain, but whatever.
 
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Re: Book Club

April 12th, 2020, 4:12 pm

I just responded to your comment here (I haven't read your book past the first page).
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