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December 24th, 2018, 4:30 pm

I think it was meant in a manner of speaking. It was an admirable gesture at the time.
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December 24th, 2018, 4:31 pm

I think it was meant in a manner of speaking. It was an admirable gesture at the time.
Unforunately, the electorate take politicians literally. Joseph de Maistre had some views on this.
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Re: Quants in POLAND

December 24th, 2018, 5:56 pm

Judges condemn ‘personalised attacks and invective’ by Polish media
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-a ... -1.3428170
from another thread
I don't recall you speaking up when Obama launched the most brutal attack on the federal judiciary since FDR's attack on the "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse"
flashback to the 2010 State of the Union

transcript
that was outrageous, unprecedented, and totally inappropriate. I can't remember a president attacking SCOTUS in a State of the Union speech before or since
six of the nine justices were sitting silently in the House of Representatives when obama launched his attack on them, telling the nation:
“With all due deference to separation of powers, last week the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections. I don’t think American elections should be bankrolled by America’s most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities. They should be decided by the American people. And I’d urge Democrats and Republicans to pass a bill that helps to correct some of these problems.”
As Democrats leapt to their feet in applause. Justice Samuel Alito mouthed the words, “Not true” — and never attended another State of the Union address.
And Chief Justice Roberts said and did nothing to defend the Court from Obama’s unprecedented assault on its independence.

And then there was April 2012, when oral arguments in the Obamacare case (NFIB v. Sebelius) appeared to go against the administration, Obama warned SCOTUS against overturning the law, attacking the very idea that “an unelected group of people would somehow overturn a duly constituted and passed law.” WOW.
And Chief Justice Roberts said and did nothing to defend the Court from Obama’s unprecedented assault on its independence.
In fact, Roberts voted to save Obamacare, joining the 4 liberals to craft a 5-4 majority, and there has been speculation that Roberts reversed his original vote, from against Obamacare to in favor of Obamacare, when he found out that the other swing vote (Kennedy) was voting against.  WOW.

If you want to attack a President for "viciously attacking the independent judiciary," then attack the President who actually did viciously attack the independent judiciary, which would be Obama
FDR was attempting to bring socialism to the US under the pretext of remedies for the Great Depression. Up until then, it was more or less agreed that the Federal Government was limited by the enumeration of its powers in the Constitution. The Tenth Amendment reads,
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people,
and on this basis, the Court struck down most of the New Deal legislation
FDR was apoplectic, and the Dems referred to 4 of the justices caustically as The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
FDR's "solution" was a court-packing plan:  the Constitution established the Supreme Court, but didn't specify the number of judges, so FDR's plan was to appoint a whole bunch of additional judges. His argument was that some of the justices were long in the tooth and no longer up to the job, so he would appoint a shadow judge for each of the older judges then and there, rather than waiting until the existing judges retired or died. Fortunately, Congress refused to go along with it, but also the Court backed down in the face of FDR's bullying and passed the legislation. That was the start of the abuse of the commerce clause (Congress shall have power "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes.")
Fast-forward to the present time, and the Dems are offering up another court-packing scheme. President Trump has appointed 2 justices, so the Dems are arguing that the next Dem president should increase the size of the Court by 2, from 9 to 11, enabling 2 immediate appointments.

What Obama did and what FDR did and what the Dems propose is far worse than anything that has happened to the judiciary in Poland
 
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Re: Quants in POLAND

December 24th, 2018, 7:32 pm

I don't recall you speaking up when Obama launched the most brutal attack

I must admit I was not paying attention. You get the politicians that you deserve.

alias consuetudines aliis regionibus

BTW this is your second irrelevant post today; the first was unfortunate while the second was careless. It is after all POLAND thread.
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Re: Quants in POLAND

December 25th, 2018, 6:24 am

I don't recall you speaking up when Obama launched the most brutal attack

I must admit I was not paying attention. You get the politicians that you deserve.

alias consuetudines aliis regionibus

BTW this is your second irrelevant post today; the first was unfortunate while the second was careless. It is after all POLAND thread.
but was it irrelevant?
it's an example of "tu quoque."
You were attacking the Polish government and media for having done something which you considered bad, and I wondered why you had said nothing when Obama did something similar.
 
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December 25th, 2018, 11:48 am

You were attacking the Polish government and media for having done something which you considered bad, and I wondered why you had said nothing when Obama did something similar.

Why can't you stay on topic?

No,EU considers it bad. It's EU law. I have enough to do than follow the minutiae of US politics.

They are 'a-la carte' Europeans?
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Re: Quants in POLAND

December 25th, 2018, 12:53 pm

Polish right-wingers focus ire on ‘Irish lesbian judge’

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/e ... -1.3427114

So, who would you trust more? an Irish judge or a right-wing politician, notwithstanding a Polish one to boot.
Court orders surrender of Polish man after concerns over fair trial
Following a referral of Mr Celmer’s case by Ms Justice Donnelly to the Court of Justice of the EU (CJEU) in Luxembourg, the High Court was advised it must assess whether there was a specific risk to Mr Celmer that his fair trial rights would be breached.
It seems the EU court overruled the ‘Irish lesbian judge’ and the EU considers her actions bad.
It's EU law.

The Irish are 'a-la carte' Europeans?
 
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December 25th, 2018, 4:42 pm

Polish right-wingers focus ire on ‘Irish lesbian judge’

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/e ... -1.3427114

So, who would you trust more? an Irish judge or a right-wing politician, notwithstanding a Polish one to boot.
Court orders surrender of Polish man after concerns over fair trial
Following a referral of Mr Celmer’s case by Ms Justice Donnelly to the Court of Justice of the EU (CJEU) in Luxembourg, the High Court was advised it must assess whether there was a specific risk to Mr Celmer that his fair trial rights would be breached.
It seems the EU court overruled the ‘Irish lesbian judge’  and the EU considers her actions bad.
It's EU law.

The Irish are 'a-la carte' Europeans?
I am sure the Irish will comply with EU law. 
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Re: Quants in POLAND

January 5th, 2019, 7:33 am

I've seen escape rooms on the Big Bang Theory on TV. They're getting a little too challenging now
Escape room fire kills five teenagers in Poland
RIP
If the operators fled the building and left the kids locked in the escape room, they should be looking at some sort of charges (manslaughter?), and I would hope that fire marshalls arouns the world are taking a look at these enterprises also
 
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Re: Quants in POLAND

January 5th, 2019, 9:27 am

Polish right-wingers focus ire on ‘Irish lesbian judge’

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/e ... -1.3427114

So, who would you trust more? an Irish judge or a right-wing politician, notwithstanding a Polish one to boot.
Court orders surrender of Polish man after concerns over fair trial
Following a referral of Mr Celmer’s case by Ms Justice Donnelly to the Court of Justice of the EU (CJEU) in Luxembourg, the High Court was advised it must assess whether there was a specific risk to Mr Celmer that his fair trial rights would be breached.
It seems the EU court overruled the ‘Irish lesbian judge’  and the EU considers her actions bad.
It's EU law.

The Irish are 'a-la carte' Europeans?
I am sure the Irish will comply with EU law. 
There are some aspects of the EU law which Ireland doesn't like at all: https://ec.europa.eu/ireland/news/key-e ... axation_en
 
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Re: Quants in POLAND

January 5th, 2019, 9:28 am

I've seen escape rooms on the Big Bang Theory on TV. They're getting a little too challenging now
Escape room fire kills five teenagers in Poland
RIP
If the operators fled the building and left the kids locked in the escape room, they should be looking at some sort of charges (manslaughter?), and I would hope that fire marshalls arouns the world are taking a look at these enterprises also
I didn't realise that they actually lock you up in those rooms. I thought it was figure of speech. What a dreadful idea.
 
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January 5th, 2019, 9:44 am

I've seen escape rooms on the Big Bang Theory on TV. They're getting a little too challenging now
Escape room fire kills five teenagers in Poland
RIP
If the operators fled the building and left the kids locked in the escape room, they should be looking at some sort of charges (manslaughter?), and I would hope that fire marshalls arouns the world are taking a look at these enterprises also
I didn't realise that they actually lock you up in those rooms. I thought it was figure of speech. What a dreadful idea.
especially when there's a fire and you can't get out.
The kids may even have thought the fire was part of the "game"
 
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Re: Quants in POLAND

January 5th, 2019, 11:07 am

[ltr]The Netherlands won’t send Polish nationals back to face trial[/ltr]


https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/10/t ... ace-trial/
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January 5th, 2019, 11:28 am

that sounds a lot like the Irish case, and the European courts overruled the Irish courts
 
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January 5th, 2019, 11:39 am



Court orders surrender of Polish man after concerns over fair trial



It seems the EU court overruled the ‘Irish lesbian judge’  and the EU considers her actions bad.
It's EU law.

The Irish are 'a-la carte' Europeans?
I am sure the Irish will comply with EU law. 
There are some aspects of the EU law which Ireland doesn't like at all: https://ec.europa.eu/ireland/news/key-e ... axation_en
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