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Re: Global Warming - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

October 19th, 2019, 11:34 am

Let us not turn this into a Soap Opera, this is serious stuff!

and yes very happy to see Cuch to focus on soap bars rather than liquid soap. No need for the container!!

"Should You Swap to Soap Bars to Reduce Your Environmental Impact?"
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Re: Global Warming - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

October 19th, 2019, 7:09 pm

ECOllector :-D
 
 
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Re: Global Warming - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

October 20th, 2019, 1:46 pm

Green energy costs in NL among highest in Europe

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/08/green-energy-costs-in-nl-among-highest-in-europe/

Dutch companies and energy suppliers  have been buying green certificates from Norwegian hydroelectric plants or geothermal centres in Iceland. But critics label these ‘doctored certificates’ because they do not contribute to the ‘greening’ of Dutch energy production.

You can sell anything to the Dutch consumer (and restaurant-goer!) so long as you give it a nice name..
 
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Re: Global Warming - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

October 20th, 2019, 2:00 pm

"Dutch companies and energy suppliers  have been buying green certificates from Norwegian hydroelectric plants or geothermal centres in Iceland. "

this is why households here have gone from 98% clean hydro electric power to 40% dirty, some scam on green certificates?  

It is amazing in the ocean cable they have transported clean down and dirty up same day...with loss off several % of the electricity due to long transportation...

your prices up due to Green costs! We taxed higher due to no longer using only Green!

And many north sea Norwegian oil platforms now connected to land based hydro power through very long cables also, so called electrification of the North sea. They are not allowed to burn own gass on platform to make own electricity. Electricity must be transported in, the gass can not be burned locally, must be transported out to other countries, that then have to buy Green certificates...Totally loss of accessible energy and no less CO2, actually more!
 
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Re: Global Warming - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

October 23rd, 2019, 8:37 pm

How more organic farming could worsen global warming

so what should we that wants to save the world eat? synthetic hot dogs?

"But a new study out this week challenges this narrative, predicting that a wholesale shift to organic farming could increase net greenhouse gas emissions by as much as 21 percent."

So not get children! Oxford physicist advice.
Pee in the shower to save electricity, Oslo water services advice.
And no more organic carrots (my favorite).

If this is not the dark ages I don't know! We even have most physicists believing in dark energy!
 
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Re: Global Warming - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

October 24th, 2019, 12:00 am

First of all, no one says that switching to organic farming can help the climate crisis. Switching to organic plant farming can (a Half of the world crop produce is fed to farm animals, and we'll learn in a couple of years that our bodies don't even assimilate the protein from meat).
Secondly, as most of such studies it only looks at direct shirt term effects. Optimising only those, we indeed come to conclusion that it's best to pour litres of roundup and get the highest product yields. Long term effects would be, come back, are more disastrous than most people realise. More or less obvious mistake it is, depending on the problem in question, it's important to always consider it from this angle. Short term remedies for complex systems may have the opposite consequences if applied in the long term.

I think we can snack on organic carrots as much as we wants :-D
 
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Re: Global Warming - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

October 24th, 2019, 9:52 am

2018 Plants emit greenhouse gas nitrous oxide at substantial amounts

2019 https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/03/trees-release-methane-what-it-means-climate-change/

"An expanding network of researchers has discovered methane flowing out of trees from the vast flooded forests of the Amazon basin to Borneo’s soggy peatlands, from temperate upland woods in Maryland and Hungary to forested mountain slopes in China."

"Methane is second only to carbon dioxide in its importance as a greenhouse-gas emission linked to global warming. " "Since 1750, the atmospheric concentration has surged more than 250 percent (from around 700 parts per billion to more than 1,800 parts per billion)."

"there is sufficient uncertainty in the estimates setting the “global methane budget” that trees could turn out to be a substantial source."

"“The emissions from an individual tree are small,” Covey said. “But there are several trillion trees. At the global scale this could be huge.” 


So eat them to save the planet? Go Vegan !  250% increase in Methane is no joke! Greenpeace wanted us to eat kengeru burgers to reduce climate gasses. Kengeru burgers and Plants then, Vegan light!


It seems like one have just started to understand the system is much more complex than though!
 
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Re: Global Warming - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

October 25th, 2019, 10:33 pm

I don't care what Oxford scientists say. My ovaries know better! I even started collecting the layette :-D https://www.beddinginn.com/product/Floo ... JVXPGTJVIo

Does anyone know what breed is the kitten in the photos?
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