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Re: Global Warming - Impacts, Vulnerability, Adaptation

October 8th, 2018, 12:07 pm

you can see from the graph that the fluctuations are sometimes below the average

here's arctic temperature 1920 to 2017
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there seems to have been a trough from about 1960 to 1980, and now we're back to the temperatures that prevailed around 1930 or 1940
Fluctuations appear to have been larger in the old days
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Re: Global Warming - Impacts, Vulnerability, Adaptation

October 8th, 2018, 12:29 pm

As you can see in your graph, those fluctuations move the average towards higher temperatures (it's a running average, not equal to that in my graph). As you noticed yourself, the amplitude of those fluctuations has been very high, which according to the author I quoted suggests that the "classical" models are unsuitable to model temperature in this system.
 
 
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Re: Global Warming - Impacts, Vulnerability, Adaptation

October 8th, 2018, 2:47 pm

here's arctic temperature 1920 to 1917

This is an inverse (ill-posed) problem.
 
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Re: Global Warming - Impacts, Vulnerability, Adaptation

October 8th, 2018, 3:10 pm

here's arctic temperature 1920 to 1917

This is an inverse (ill-posed) problem.
my bad, 2017
 
 
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Re: Global Warming - Impacts, Vulnerability, Adaptation

October 9th, 2018, 10:25 am

That was by the year 2100. It is ludicrous to imagine cars running on gas at the end of the century, so that sounds about right.
 
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Re: Global Warming - Impacts, Vulnerability, Adaptation

October 11th, 2018, 2:15 pm

 
 
 
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Re: Global Warming - Impacts, Vulnerability, Adaptation

December 14th, 2018, 12:54 pm

here's algore, climate scientist extraordinaire, in 2009
 
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Re: Global Warming - Impacts, Vulnerability, Adaptation

December 20th, 2018, 12:54 pm

Carols Against Coal

Church choirs are performing Christmas carols with lyrics rewritten by climate change activists.
The Australian Religious Response to Climate Change, a “multi-faith network committed to action,” has released a “Christmas Carols Against Coal” songbook featuring a ‘reimagined’ collection of well-known Christmas carols, many of which are considered holy Christian hymns.

 
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Re: Global Warming - Impacts, Vulnerability, Adaptation

December 20th, 2018, 1:57 pm

Repurposing old songs seems quite environmentally friendly.
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