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Re: Grammar Time!

December 10th, 2017, 4:34 pm

Indeed. But people use it all the time. 

"I shudda went" is also common.
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Re: Grammar Time!

December 10th, 2017, 5:02 pm

Almost no one uses "has went" to my knowledge and Google seems to verify that perception:

1. "has went" 0.575 million hits (20% of which explain why "has went" is wrong)
2. "has gone" 101 million hits

There's nearly a 200:1 ratio in usage between these two versions. Perhaps "has went" is only used by non-native speakers or within some socioeconomic classes?
 
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Re: Grammar Time!

December 11th, 2017, 10:27 am

I'd say it's some pidgin English. Some of my family members who escaped to New Jersey and Chicago before the war spoke like that. Their Polish and Ukrainian in letters they sent to us were the same interesting. The writing looked grotesque, beautifully calligraphed and fraught with monstrous orthographic errors.
 
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Re: Grammar Time!

December 21st, 2017, 7:29 pm

I alway like how efficient languages are, important word that you use a lot are short, uncommon words long. It maximizes the bitrate of communication, and it also tells a lot about what people are commonly talking about.

Take for instance the Hawaiian word: "A‘ā" which means "Sharp jagged lava rock". It's brilliant, you cut your big toe for the millionth time on a sharp jagged lava rock and all you have to do is shout "A!".

In Inuit "A" means either "Yes" or "Stop" or "Ouch!", depending on context. The logic of that is a bit more difficult to figure out, I bet there is a lot of confusion up there.
 
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Re: Grammar Time!

December 21st, 2017, 7:46 pm

So an Inuit's answer to a question about ice is likely to be "A"? ;)
 
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Re: Grammar Time!

December 21st, 2017, 8:00 pm

Icelandic

Skarpur hakkað hraunsteinn "

Dutch

Scherpe gekartelde lavarots
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January 23rd, 2018, 7:14 pm

Book shall be available in February, I read. It was advertised on LI by the author.

Hard requirement?
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Re: Grammar Time!

January 23rd, 2018, 7:29 pm

Cuchulainn wrote:
Book shall be available in February, I read. It was advertised on LI by the author.

Hard requirement?

I read the book shall be available in (by?) February. It was adverstised by the author on LI?
 
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January 23rd, 2018, 7:40 pm

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January 23rd, 2018, 7:43 pm

tagoma wrote:
Cuchulainn wrote:
Book shall be available in February, I read. It was advertised on LI by the author.

Hard requirement?

I read the book shall be available in (by?) February. It was adverstised by the author on LI?

  1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
  2. You shall not make idols.
  3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
  4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
  5. Honor your father and your mother.
  6. You shall not murder.
  7. You shall not commit adultery.
  8. You shall not steal.
  9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
  10. You shall not covet.
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Re: Grammar Time!

January 23rd, 2018, 8:29 pm

Cuchulainn wrote:
tagoma wrote:
Cuchulainn wrote:
Book shall be available in February, I read. It was advertised on LI by the author.

Hard requirement?

I read the book shall be available in (by?) February. It was adverstised by the author on LI?

  1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
  2. You shall not make idols.
  3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
  4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
  5. Honor your father and your mother.
  6. You shall not murder.
  7. You shall not commit adultery.
  8. You shall not steal.
  9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
  10. You shall not covet.

Shall you?
 
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Re: Grammar Time!

January 23rd, 2018, 8:34 pm

tagoma wrote:
Cuchulainn wrote:
tagoma wrote:
I read the book shall be available in (by?) February. It was adverstised by the author on LI?

  1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
  2. You shall not make idols.
  3. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
  4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
  5. Honor your father and your mother.
  6. You shall not murder.
  7. You shall not commit adultery.
  8. You shall not steal.
  9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
  10. You shall not covet.

Shall you?

not.

What about typos?

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Re: Grammar Time!

January 23rd, 2018, 8:38 pm

"I knew the tyme [sic] when great care was had about printing, the Bibles especially, good compositors and the best correctors were gotten being grave and learned men, the paper and the letter rare, and faire every way of the beste, but now the paper is nought, the composers boyes, and the correctors unlearned."

Aka copy-editors, god love them.
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Re: Grammar Time!

January 24th, 2018, 6:02 pm

tags,
What's your erudite view on

Some people, like autos, some don't.
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Re: Grammar Time!

January 24th, 2018, 7:55 pm

Cuchulainn wrote:
tags,
What's your erudite view on

Some people, like autos, some don't.

I like the symmetry. Good answer?
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