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Re: Grammar Time!

July 22nd, 2021, 1:43 pm

They both sound like they were translated from a marketing blurb written in some other language. If I had to choose I’d go with the former.
It's from my preface. The former is mine, latter is from (US) style editor.

"So" on its own is evil.
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Re: Grammar Time!

July 22nd, 2021, 2:19 pm

editor to self: "omit needless words" => 'so'
 
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Re: Grammar Time!

July 22nd, 2021, 2:26 pm

The two sentences have slightly different meanings. The first is clear, in the second the “so” could be interpreted as “therefore.”

Make it “so that,” everyone happy.
 
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Re: Grammar Time!

July 22nd, 2021, 4:06 pm

the material can be applied to a range of existing and new application areas.

The material can be applied to existing application areas. Fine.
But what are the "new" application areas?
I mean what is left that is not in the "existing application areas" set that is the "not existing application areas" set and how would you know the material in your book could be applied to it (while it doesn't exist?) ?
 
 
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Re: Grammar Time!

July 22nd, 2021, 7:17 pm

the material can be applied to a range of existing and new application areas.

The material can be applied to existing application areas. Fine.
But what are the "new" application areas?
I mean what is left that is not in the "existing application areas" set that is the "not existing application areas" set and how would you know the material in your book could be applied to it (while it doesn't exist?) ?
 
That’s closer to my initial reaction, aside from the redundancy inherent in something (whatever it may be) being “applied” to “application areas”. Perhaps a more active voice is called for: “In this book I teach you how to apply object oriented PDE methods to solve all problems, whether you have them or not! Resistance is futile.”
 
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Re: Grammar Time!

July 22nd, 2021, 7:45 pm

The two sentences have slightly different meanings. The first is clear, in the second the “so” could be interpreted as “therefore.”

Make it “so that,” everyone happy.
Indeed.
It is certainly not meant to be a "therefore" kind of thing.

Maybe it;s good to do with spoken language vs written language.
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Re: Grammar Time!

July 22nd, 2021, 7:49 pm

the material can be applied to a range of existing and new application areas.

The material can be applied to existing application areas. Fine.
But what are the "new" application areas?
I mean what is left that is not in the "existing application areas" set that is the "not existing application areas" set and how would you know the material in your book could be applied to it (while it doesn't exist?) ?
 
That’s closer to my initial reaction, aside from the redundancy inherent in something (whatever it may be) being “applied” to “application areas”. Perhaps a more active voice is called for: “In this book I teach you how to apply object oriented PDE methods to solve all problems, whether you have them or not! Resistance is futile.”
I was thinking of writing that.
BTW OOP for PDE is neither necessary nor sufficient; The best language is Fortran or C.

And I never use "I" with one exception.

. (Much much of the literature uses the indices i and j, which I personally find confusing.).
Regarding i and j, I've been told that this practice dates back to FORTRAN. In that language, all variables that began with the letters i, j, k, l, m, and n were integers, so FORTRAN code had a tradition of using i through n as integer loop counters, array indices, etc.

I meant to write “…confusing because it does not draw a real distinction between space and time variables. In short, we use i, j and k for space indices and n for the time index. Several books on finance use j for the time index which we do not adhere because it does not scale well to multi-dimensional problems and the resulting algorithms become difficult to read.”
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Re: Grammar Time!

July 22nd, 2021, 8:40 pm

editor to self: "omit needless words" => 'so'
In which Sapir-Whorf world do copy editors live? It's a kind of scientific question.
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Re: Grammar Time!

July 22nd, 2021, 8:49 pm




The material can be applied to existing application areas. Fine.
But what are the "new" application areas?
I mean what is left that is not in the "existing application areas" set that is the "not existing application areas" set and how would you know the material in your book could be applied to it (while it doesn't exist?) ?
 
That’s closer to my initial reaction, aside from the redundancy inherent in something (whatever it may be) being “applied” to “application areas”. Perhaps a more active voice is called for: “In this book I teach you how to apply object oriented PDE methods to solve all problems, whether you have them or not! Resistance is futile.”
I was thinking of writing that.
BTW OOP for PDE is neither necessary nor sufficient; The best language is Fortran or C.

And I never use "I" with one exception.

. (Much much of the literature uses the indices i and j, which I personally find confusing.).
Regarding i and j, I've been told that this practice dates back to FORTRAN. In that language, all variables that began with the letters i, j, k, l, m, and n were integers, so FORTRAN code had a tradition of using i through n as integer loop counters, array indices, etc.

I meant to write “…confusing because it does not draw a real distinction between space and time variables. In short, we use i, j and k for space indices and n for the time index. Several books on finance use j for the time index which we do not adhere because it does not scale well to multi-dimensional problems and the resulting algorithms become difficult to read.”
I agree that n (or, heaven forbid, t) works best for time and i, j, k for space. Unless you have something complex going on, in which case i is reserved (unless you’re dealing with EE people, then it’s j…).
And if you have more than three spatial dimensions, you’re probably doing something wrong.
 
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Re: Grammar Time!

July 22nd, 2021, 8:57 pm

John Hull uses i for time and j for space. And treats PDE as if they were terminal problems ugh

And lattice stuff also i, j.

And if you have more than three spatial dimensions, you’re probably doing something wrong.
Multi-array/tensors.
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Re: Grammar Time!

July 23rd, 2021, 9:54 am

the material can be applied to a range of existing and new application areas.

The material can be applied to existing application areas. Fine.
But what are the "new" application areas?
I mean what is left that is not in the "existing application areas" set that is the "not existing application areas" set and how would you know the material in your book could be applied to it (while it doesn't exist?) ?
 
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  Sign in park: "Clean up after your dog". Man talking to his dog: "The way I read it, after you clean up, then I'll clean up".

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