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February 5th, 2006, 2:15 pm

but more specifically no dope smoking or else a fine of 45 euros i gather
 
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February 6th, 2006, 6:44 pm

Whereabouts in the Wharf? Wallstreet is right - it is a bit sterile. Although there are some ok places - Via Fossa, 1802...
 
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February 6th, 2006, 10:57 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ioancwWhereabouts in the Wharf? Wallstreet is right - it is a bit sterile. Although there are some ok places - Via Fossa, 1802...Hmmhmm... that's TJ to you Dragonman...
 
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February 14th, 2006, 2:28 pm

say it ain't so:http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.j ... mlQuoteThe Prime Minister's duels with Labour rebels resumes tonight when MPs vote on the Government's plans to exempt pubs and private clubs from a ban on smoking in public places in England. so british pubs won't be smoke free ??
 
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February 14th, 2006, 5:53 pm

The ID card system will be a fiasco that will make the disaster of the London Olympics look like a spilled coffee.Like all governments, the British have a figure for what it is "worth" spending to save a life through precautions, or regulation. Last figure I saw was about 3 million.This sort of calculation allows a rough ability to judge whether it is better to send money on (say) reducing emissions, preventing terrorism, or increasing healthcare.Thus the human "cost" of 9/11 was about 10 billion quid.The ID system may well end up costing more than the national health service. On that basis it is better to ring up Osama, buy him a jet, and let him crash it into a British building of his choice every 3 or 4 years.It is also the case that all the 9/11 bombers had ID in the forms of passports et al. The British tube & bus bombers apparently carried credit cards with their real name on.Thus we will incur huge costs with little hope it will actually prevent an attack. Many believe it will actually increase attacks at the police will use it to piss around various ethnic minorities.
 
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February 14th, 2006, 11:08 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppaupersay it ain't so:http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.j ... mlQuoteThe Prime Minister's duels with Labour rebels resumes tonight when MPs vote on the Government's plans to exempt pubs and private clubs from a ban on smoking in public places in England. so british pubs won't be smoke free ??Anything to keep you outta here, ppauper . Ouch, that's gotta hurt.
 
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February 14th, 2006, 11:10 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: DCFCThe ID card system will be a fiasco that will make the disaster of the London Olympics look like a spilled coffee.Like all governments, the British have a figure for what it is "worth" spending to save a life through precautions, or regulation. Last figure I saw was about 3 million.This sort of calculation allows a rough ability to judge whether it is better to send money on (say) reducing emissions, preventing terrorism, or increasing healthcare.Thus the human "cost" of 9/11 was about 10 billion quid.The ID system may well end up costing more than the national health service. On that basis it is better to ring up Osama, buy him a jet, and let him crash it into a British building of his choice every 3 or 4 years.It is also the case that all the 9/11 bombers had ID in the forms of passports et al. The British tube & bus bombers apparently carried credit cards with their real name on.Thus we will incur huge costs with little hope it will actually prevent an attack. Many believe it will actually increase attacks at the police will use it to piss around various ethnic minorities.Very low barrier to entry if you ask me, and once the bad guys have faked them, they're in. Fuck this government is stupid (Sorry farmer).
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February 15th, 2006, 2:11 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppaupersay it ain't so:http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.j ... mlQuoteThe Prime Minister's duels with Labour rebels resumes tonight when MPs vote on the Government's plans to exempt pubs and private clubs from a ban on smoking in public places in England. so british pubs won't be smoke free ??fortunately, it's been banned in pubs after all:After last-minute appeals from health campaigners, MPs opted for a blanket prohibition which will start in summer 2007, ending months of argument over whether smoking should be barred in pubs and restaurants only. They voted to ban smoking in all pubs and clubs by 384 to 184, a surprisingly large majority of 200. QuoteSmoking could still be banned at outdoor locations that are “substantially enclosed”, such as football grounds and railway platforms. The details will be contained in regulations after a three-month consultation.
 
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February 15th, 2006, 10:46 pm

We'll just have to find others ways to keep you out. IQ test? No. Ummmmm... ah, I know, no dickheads.
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February 16th, 2006, 1:41 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: TraderJoeWe'll just have to find others ways to keep you out. IQ test? No. Ummmmm... ah, I know, no dickheads.if they had a rule like that, TJ would never have gotten into the UK.
 
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February 16th, 2006, 4:10 pm

QuoteCalabasas no smoking law begins next monthThe new Calabasas secondhand smoke ordinance, which would prohibit smoking in all public areas of the city including parks, sidewalks and outdoor businesses, will take effect by the middle of March, city officials said. Final passage of the ordinance is expected at the city council’s Feb. 15 meeting. At its Feb. 1 meeting the council outlined certain exceptions to the law. Officials from the Los Angeles County Department of Health, the American Heart Association, the American Lung Association, Healthier Solutions, Inc., Smoke-Free Air for Everyone and the Coalition for a Tobacco-Free Los Angeles expressed strong support for the new law. Of the 17 public speakers at the meeting, all but one supported the ordinance. Last month, California became the first state to declare second-hand tobacco smoke a toxic air pollutant. “. . .The California Air Resources Board, which is the agency which regulates air quality in California, has adopted a regulation to treat secondhand smoke as a toxic pollutant of the air, like the kinds of things that come out of petroleum smoke stacks and out of the tailpipes of cars,” said Michael Colantuono, Calabasas city attorney. “That decision is the first time a state regulatory agency of any state in the nation has reached that conclusion. The city council agreed to allow smoking in the following areas: •Private residential property, other than housing used as a childcare or health care facility when employees, children or patients are present •Up to 20 percent of guest rooms in any hotel or motel •Designated smoking “outposts” in shopping mall common areas that are at least five feet away from any doorway or opening that leads to an enclosed area. “I think the reason that (city) staff recommended a relatively small number (of outposts) in this instance is because (the city is) going to be dealing with a variety of commercial property: some large, some small, some that are big rectangles, some that have odder shapes,” Colantuono said. “We wanted to have the ability to have at least one designated space on each commercial property that meets the requirements. The feeling was that if you don’t provide an outlet, then people would simply defy the ordinance.” The city said it would relax the ban at times when non-smokers aren’t present in a public area. Business owners will be responsible for ensuring that all employees and patrons comply with the new law. Individual citizens can report offenders to the city and officials will determine how to handle fines on a case-by-case basis, said Tony Coroalles, Calabasas city manager. To view the second-hand smoke ordinance, visit www.cityofcalabasas.com.
 
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February 16th, 2006, 4:12 pm

the ordinanceQuoteORDINANCE NO. 2006-217AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CALABASAS REGULATING SECOND-HAND SMOKE AND AMENDING THE CALABASAS MUNICIPAL CODETHE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CALABASAS DOES ORDAIN AS FOLLOWS:SECTION 1. FINDINGS.The City Council of Calabasas hereby finds and declares as follows:WHEREAS, scientific studies have concluded that cigarette smoking causes chronic lung disease, coronary heart disease, stroke, cancer of the lungs, larynx, esophagus, mouth, and bladder, and contributes to cancer of the cervix, pancreas, and kidneys;1 andWHEREAS, the use of cigars is known to cause lung, larynx, esophageal, and oral cancer;2 andWHEREAS, more than 440,000 people die in the United States from tobaccorelated diseases every year, making it the nation’s leading cause of preventable illness;3 andWHEREAS, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that by 2030, tobacco will account for 10 million deaths per year, making it the greatest cause of death worldwide;4 andWHEREAS, deaths from smoking around the world will soon outnumber those from AIDS, tuberculosis, traffic accidents, murder, and suicide combined;5 and1 U.S. Dep’t of Health and Human Servs., Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Targeting Tobacco Use:The Nation’s Leading Cause of Death 2002, 2 (2002), available at http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/overview/oshaag.pdf(last accessed August 15, 2003).2 U.S. Dep’t of Health and Human Servs., Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Annual Smoking- Attributable Mortality, Years of Potential Life Lost, and Economic Costs – United States 1995-1999 (2002)MORBIDITY AND MORTALITY WEEKLY REPORT, available athttp://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5114a2.htm (last accessed August 15, 2003).3 U.S. Dep’t of Health and Human Servs., Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Highlights AnnualSmoking – Attributable Mortality, Years of Potential Life Lost, and Economic Costs – United States 1995-1999(2002) MORBIDITY AND MORTALITY WEEKLY REPORT, available at http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/research_dat ... lights.htm (last accessed August 15, 2003).4 U.S. Dep’t of Health and Human Servs., Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Reducing Tobacco Use:A Report of the Surgeon General, 437 (2001).5 Macksood Aftab, et. al., International Cigarette Labeling Practices, 8:4 TOBACCO CONTROL 368 (1999).
 
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February 16th, 2006, 10:39 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: TraderJoeWe'll just have to find others ways to keep you out. IQ test? No. Ummmmm... ah, I know, no dickheads.if they had a rule like that, TJ would never have gotten into the UK.Oh, wait, I know. No morons .
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February 16th, 2006, 11:44 pm

When & where is the next London RW?As long as beer is served, I dont give a toss about the smoke.
 
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February 17th, 2006, 1:24 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: TraderJoeQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: TraderJoeWe'll just have to find others ways to keep you out. IQ test? No. Ummmmm... ah, I know, no dickheads.if they had a rule like that, TJ would never have gotten into the UK.Oh, wait, I know. No morons .that still stops TJ from getting in