QuoteOriginally posted by: GamalQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: doreillyQuoteOriginally posted by: GamalLet agree - we may discuss what is future (India, China, islam) but Europe is already dead and if we want to organise things properly - it is time to think about the funeral now."The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated"It's a bit premature indeed. Look at how, for example Iceland, Ireland, Finland, Spain are doing. Look up the world competitiveness ranking and the Nordic countries are doing. Germany is the world's biggest exporter. And although poverty does exist in Europe, the levels are nowhere like those in India. Let's not be blinded by science.Who told you Cuchulainn that rich people don't die? There is one reason for Europe's death - demography. Women's fertility should be at least 2.1 children in order to sustain population size. Fertility of Christian (is there any Christianity in Europe any more?) women is less that 1.4, only muslim women give birth to children.Some European countries are doing quite well. Ireland, where half of the population is inder 25. Other countries are a bit more problematic I agree.