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January 11th, 2006, 10:14 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnSome European countries are doing quite well. Ireland, where half of the population is inder 25. Other countries are a bit more problematic I agree.All right, there will be an Irish Christian island (4 million inhabitants) in the muslim ocean. Doesn't look similar to another small country?Regards,Gamal (oriental Christian based in Europe)
 
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January 11th, 2006, 10:22 am

Europe isnt dead yet..but will probably fall behind....As for China...give it 10 years and it will implode....India....I'm positive on but it cant get complacent...more still needs to be done if it finally does start matching all the talk with action...US is still going to be the main power for the next 50 years at least.........unless some thing major happens......
 
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January 11th, 2006, 11:08 am

Some years ago, an arts graduate politician called Enoch Powell in said that Britain was going to be taken over by immigrants.. Talked of "rivers of blood".Caused a huge political row.His highly successful career was instantly destroyed for his racism.It should of course have been destroyed by the breathtaking lack of numeracy, but the media and most politicans call any number over 10 "many".Most of the immigrants of his time were West Indians. Decades later, you can say many things about this group, but they aren't running anything.Originally posted by: Gamal There is one reason for Europe's death - demography.The strength of a country is ultimately determined by the quality of it's people. In most of the world, including India & China the average kid is not educated or fed properly.This is changing of course, but neither country has worked out what to do with girls who they regard as an unfortunate side effect of producing sons.One only has to see just how terribly inefficient Moslem countires are to realise that we are more likely to be taken over by Aliens. China and India are growing because they've stopped doing so many dumb things. They have yet to demonstrate they can do smart things.only muslim women give birth to children.But they also give birth to daughters, though medical science is helping them stop this, and this is spreading out from the civilised world. Ironically American Christians may be making their life harder by stopping poor people from having abortions.Thus the number of moslem women being born in Europe is rather lower than the number of Moslem men. Well known that bored, frustrated men do not behave well. Add to higher unemployment, especially in defective labour markets like France, and of course you get trouble.It is also well known that immigrants tend to have more kids than people who've been in a country several generations. Normally the rough edges of a culture are worn away by inter marriage.This is slower for Moslems because very few European women are that masochistic. But it's slowly happening, simply because Moslem men find they must choose betweenr screwing other men, celebacy or marriage outside their faith.Some moslems at some level realise this, which is why they try and stop their daughters being seen, or sometimes from being educated wnough to make their own decisions.Thus it's largely self limiting. Not saying it will be smooth or quick, but I recall when my racial group (Irish) were seen as about to take over huge areas.Neither we nor the West Indians dominate Europe. This is true. I checked, trust me on this.
 
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January 11th, 2006, 11:22 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: DCFCThe strength of a country is ultimately determined by the quality of it's people.Definitely. If we measure people's quality by their income per capita, Luxembourg is the most powerful country on Earth.
 
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January 11th, 2006, 12:01 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: GamalQuoteOriginally posted by: DCFCThe strength of a country is ultimately determined by the quality of it's people.Definitely. If we measure people's quality by their income per capita, Luxembourg is the most powerful country on Earth.BollocksThe strength of a country is also strongly influenced by its geographical resources, the quality of its communications infrastructure, the quality of its governance, and its ability to pull weight in international affairs.The idea that poor nations are poor because the people that lived there are some how unworthy of wealth, is as morally reprehensable as the teachings of national socialism, and about as big a pile of crap.
 
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January 11th, 2006, 12:55 pm

India is a good example of how improving the quality of your poeple can dramatically improve your strength and wealth. By making sweeping changes to the quality and reach of education, it has dramatically increased the value of it's people.This could have been done at any time in the last 50 years, and has nothing to do with the excuses htmlballsup cites like resources or communications, or form of government.India was a democracy from birth. All the crap decisions are down to it's people, and it's still making some which slow it down.Most of the crap rulers in the world have been really popular, the American poeple freely chose GW Bush in full knowledge of his incompetence and religious delusions. Few Iraqis were in doubt about the naure of Saddam, yet he was popular as well.Some people blame imperialism for this ans an excuse for failing societies. But no one really thinks of Iran as being in the control of the imnperialist west, yet it's mad policies are very popular.If Iranians are not responsible for Iran's behaviour, who is ?
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January 11th, 2006, 1:02 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: DCFCThe vaious forms of socialism; Communist, National and Liberal didn't work. The most succesful countries in the world are all liberal socialist.
 
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January 11th, 2006, 2:12 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: DCFCSome years ago, an arts graduate politician called Enoch Powell in said that Britain was going to be taken over by immigrants.. Talked of "rivers of blood".Caused a huge political row.His highly successful career was instantly destroyed for his racism.Brigadier Enoch Powell.Double first at CambridgeProfessor of Greek at Sydney University aged 25.His edition of Thucydides' Historia for the Oxford University Press published in 1938 remains the standard Oxford Classical Text for that author.By the end of WWII, he was the youngest brigadier in the British army, having started off as a Private. DCFC does not know history.Brigadier Powell did not talkof "rivers of blood".Brigadier Powell's speech was of course an allusion to the poet Virgil (from the Aeneid 6, 1.86: "Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno.")Quote"As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see “the River Tiber foaming with much blood”. That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. "The speech in question took place in 1968.A Daily Express poll in 1972 showed him being the most popular politician in the country; this popularity did not wane significantly during his lifetime.And the immediate catalyst for Powell's speech was of course the sudden and rapid influx of Kenyan asians in 1968 (reminiscent of the later Ugandan asians). At the time, they were arriving in Britain at the rate of over 1000 a month.The mass immigration of thousands of Kenyan Asians caused a major crisis for the UK government of Prime Minister Harold Wilson. The Home Secretary, James Callaghan, rushed through new legislation aimed specifically at curbing the flow of immigrants from East Africa. The 1968 Commonwealth Immigration Act introduced a requirement to demonstrate a "close connection" with the UK. History has of course shown Brigadier Powell to be correct.
 
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January 11th, 2006, 2:13 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: htmlballsupThe most succesful countries in the world are all liberal socialist.The US is the most successful country in the world.
 
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January 11th, 2006, 2:14 pm

10 million female babies aborted in india
 
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January 11th, 2006, 2:18 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: htmlballsupThe most succesful countries in the world are all liberal socialist.The US is the most successful country in the world.The Us is socialist
 
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January 11th, 2006, 2:27 pm

This should be good (please don't hurt me); where would India be without Britain?Keep the foaming at the mouth to a minimum, if you please. I'm just 'throwing it out there'
 
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January 11th, 2006, 2:41 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: zetaThis should be good (please don't hurt me); where would India be without Britain?Keep the foaming at the mouth to a minimum, if you please. I'm just 'throwing it out there'French?
 
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January 11th, 2006, 2:51 pm

hard to say but bear in mind before Britan came over India was one of the leading countries in terms of world trade.....It could be worse it could be better......As for stupid decsions bear in mind that when India gained independence no-one wanted to be be reliant on any outside country hence a policy of being inward looking....Foreign investment is still thought of as an extension of colonial rule and hence there is a lot disagreement as to how much should be allowed....
 
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January 11th, 2006, 2:59 pm

And a pint of beer goes to.... migalley, I would have said spanish but that was friggin hilarious all the same.
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