Page 1 of 97

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 8th, 2006, 2:59 pm
by ppauper
This thread is being started to discuss what we can and should do about the impending ice age. This is called this "mitigation". This thread assumes the conclusions of the mainstream science that an ice age is imminent.Contributions which do not directly address the mitigation aspect are unwelcome, and should be directed elsewhere

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 8th, 2006, 3:01 pm
by zeta
how 'bout 'igloos for everyone?' Sounds like a political platform (insert obligatory bush joke here)

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 8th, 2006, 3:03 pm
by ppauper
The science behind this thread is as follows:http://upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?Story ... 47-2345rST. PETERSBURG, Russia, Feb. 7 (UPI) -- A Russian astronomer has predicted that Earth will experience a "mini Ice Age" in the middle of this century, caused by low solar activity. Khabibullo Abdusamatov of the Pulkovo Astronomic Observatory in St. Petersburg said Monday that temperatures will begin falling six or seven years from now, when global warming caused by increased solar activity in the 20th century reaches its peak, RIA Novosti reported. The coldest period will occur 15 to 20 years after a major solar output decline between 2035 and 2045, Abdusamatov said. Dramatic changes in the earth's surface temperatures are an ordinary phenomenon, not an anomaly, he said, and result from variations in the sun's energy output and ultraviolet radiation. The Northern Hemisphere's most recent cool-down period occurred between 1645 and 1705. The resulting period, known as the Little Ice Age, left canals in the Netherlands frozen solid and forced people in Greenland to abandon their houses to glaciers, the scientist said.As stated, this thread takes this assumes that this science and is strictly to discuss mitigation.I would ask therefore that the pseudoscientists, naysayers, and contrarians do not post their hysterical rants in this thread

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 8th, 2006, 3:05 pm
by ppauper
QuoteOriginally posted by: zetahow 'bout 'igloos for everyone?' that's a good suggestion !that, and we replace our SUVs with dogsleds perhaps.But I suspect that those suggestions fall into the category of "learning to live with it" rather than "mitigation"

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 8th, 2006, 6:39 pm
by Marsden
Global warming concern invades faith science:Who knew? Some Christian leaders really do care about the disadvantaged.

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 8th, 2006, 7:19 pm
by farmer
QuoteOriginally posted by: MarsdenWho knew? Some Christian leaders really do care about the disadvantaged.What do you do? Local Big Brothers program? Doctor without borders? Teach modern farming technology in Africa?

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 8th, 2006, 7:33 pm
by Collector
Alta Ice Hotel they serve Frozen Margaritas in the bar Building massive mirrors in space reflecting more sun towards the earth....probably to expensive, and we are simply humans (monkeys with over sized brains) our technology is very limited, I think spending our limited resources on "learning to live with it" is best choice, even if not what u want to discuss. dropping food production main problem: "These changes had a profound impact on early Icelanders, and they continue to have an impact today. A one-degree drop in average summer temperatures can result in a 15-per cent drop in crop yields." Increase farm land, to make up for lower crop per decar, currently the farm land is reduced in north. (may be this is why farmer is long farm land?, he is not alone ;-)

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 8th, 2006, 8:49 pm
by Marsden
QuoteOriginally posted by: farmerQuoteOriginally posted by: MarsdenWho knew? Some Christian leaders really do care about the disadvantaged.What do you do? Local Big Brothers program? Doctor without borders? Teach modern farming technology in Africa?Why, I humor the mentally infirmed, Stephen. I thought that was obvious.

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 8th, 2006, 9:15 pm
by farmer
QuoteOriginally posted by: MarsdenWho knew? Some Christian leaders really do care about the disadvantaged.Salvation ArmyChurch World Service Lutheran World Relief Bread for the World World Vision International Samaritan's PurseWorld Relief Tearfund World Concern International Orthodox Christian Charities Mercy Ships Christian Reformed World Relief Committee (CRWRC) MEDAIR Operation Blessing InternationalEducational Concerns for Hunger Organization Pura Vida Coffee National Benevolent Association Maranatha Volunteers International Good News Family Care Christian Relief ServicesMarine Reach InternationalKingdom Ventures Church Urban Fund Global Outreach Fellowship of Associates of Medical Evangelism [FAME] Church Action on Poverty Christian Appalachian Project Bright Hope International Society of St. Vincent de PaulFood for the Hungry International (FHI) India Partners Kingscare Mission Noah Honduras Outreach Rivers of the World Heal the Nations Helps International Hope Now Jericho Road, Inc. CitiHope InternationalHis Kids, Too World Hope International Faith in Practice Adopt-A-Church International THOMAS Global Hope World Care Ministry Operation Warmup Romanian Aid Foundation, The Cedar Fund Siloam Christian Ministeries Stamps for Christian Missions (SFCM) Association Evangelique Des Demunis Hope Connections Christian Embassy of Christ's Ambassadors, TheChristian Children's Fund Compassion InternationalFeed the Children Newborns in Need Family Care Foundation Global Care Canadian Food for the Hungry International (CFHI) Kids Around the World Catalyst Complex, Inc. Dreams Do Come True Non Profit Kids Charity Children's Cup International Relief Point Hope Child Charity Solar Cooking in Peru Spafford Children's Center Association Orphanos Foundation Hands That Help Christian Communications Commission Intl. Christian Children's Charity Bright Horizons Camp ScholarshipsSlavic Missionary AssociationHands of HopeCatholic Relief Services Catholic Fund for Overseas Development (CAFOD) Catholic CharitiesCatholic Worker Movement Catholic Medical Mission Board Scottish Catholic International Aid Fund Catholic Near East Welfare Association (CNEWA) St. Vincent Pallotti Center ShareLife Pathways to Hope Foundations and Donors Interested in Catholic Activities, Inc. Catholic Workman Society of Our Lady of Lourdes National Catholic Community Foundation Caritas Oracle Religious Association Divine Face OrganizationNew York Holy Name Society Service Brings SmilesAnd so on...

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 8th, 2006, 9:42 pm
by TraderJoe
This is pure evil. I take it you do not have any offspring pauper?

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 9th, 2006, 1:50 pm
by ppauper
QuoteOriginally posted by: CollectorAlta Ice Hotel they serve Frozen Margaritas in the bar that's a capital idea, but again "learning to live with it" rather than "mitigation"QuoteBuilding massive mirrors in space reflecting more sun towards the earth....probably too expensiveIt's an idea though.Should be looked intoQuote and we are simply humans (monkeys with over sized brains)Not The Collector ! Don't say you've joined the darwinists QuoteI think spending our limited resources on "learning to live with it" is best choice, even if not what u want to discuss.I'll take that under advisement Quotedropping food production main problem: "These changes had a profound impact on early Icelanders, and they continue to have an impact today. A one-degree drop in average summer temperatures can result in a 15-per cent drop in crop yields." Increase farm land, to make up for lower crop per decar, currently the farm land is reduced in north. I concur.The impending ice age is going to have a catastrophic effect on agricultureQuote(may be this is why farmer is long farm land?, he is not alone ;-)so you're long farm land to make money off of the impending ice age ?that's diabolically smart !

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 9th, 2006, 1:52 pm
by ppauper
When I was younger (not sure if they still do) orange groves in florida used to burn oil to provide heat and protect the trees from frost damage.Maybe we could do that on a global scale ?

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 9th, 2006, 1:55 pm
by ppauper
QuoteOriginally posted by: farmerQuoteOriginally posted by: MarsdenWho knew? Some Christian leaders really do care about the disadvantaged.Salvation ArmyChurch World Service Lutheran World Relief Bread for the World World Vision International Samaritan's PurseWorld Relief Tearfund World Concern International Orthodox Christian Charities Mercy Ships Christian Reformed World Relief Committee (CRWRC) MEDAIR Operation Blessing InternationalEducational Concerns for Hunger Organization Pura Vida Coffee National Benevolent Association Maranatha Volunteers International Good News Family Care Christian Relief ServicesMarine Reach InternationalKingdom Ventures Church Urban Fund Global Outreach Fellowship of Associates of Medical Evangelism [FAME] Church Action on Poverty Christian Appalachian Project Bright Hope International Society of St. Vincent de PaulFood for the Hungry International (FHI) India Partners Kingscare Mission Noah Honduras Outreach Rivers of the World Heal the Nations Helps International Hope Now Jericho Road, Inc. CitiHope InternationalHis Kids, Too World Hope International Faith in Practice Adopt-A-Church International THOMAS Global Hope World Care Ministry Operation Warmup Romanian Aid Foundation, The Cedar Fund Siloam Christian Ministeries Stamps for Christian Missions (SFCM) Association Evangelique Des Demunis Hope Connections Christian Embassy of Christ's Ambassadors, TheChristian Children's Fund Compassion InternationalFeed the Children Newborns in Need Family Care Foundation Global Care Canadian Food for the Hungry International (CFHI) Kids Around the World Catalyst Complex, Inc. Dreams Do Come True Non Profit Kids Charity Children's Cup International Relief Point Hope Child Charity Solar Cooking in Peru Spafford Children's Center Association Orphanos Foundation Hands That Help Christian Communications Commission Intl. Christian Children's Charity Bright Horizons Camp ScholarshipsSlavic Missionary AssociationHands of HopeCatholic Relief Services Catholic Fund for Overseas Development (CAFOD) Catholic CharitiesCatholic Worker Movement Catholic Medical Mission Board Scottish Catholic International Aid Fund Catholic Near East Welfare Association (CNEWA) St. Vincent Pallotti Center ShareLife Pathways to Hope Foundations and Donors Interested in Catholic Activities, Inc. Catholic Workman Society of Our Lady of Lourdes National Catholic Community Foundation Caritas Oracle Religious Association Divine Face OrganizationNew York Holy Name Society Service Brings SmilesAnd so on...and that's just the tip of the iceberg !

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 10th, 2006, 2:14 pm
by ppauper
QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: Collector (may be this is why farmer is long farm land?, he is not alone ;-)so you're long farm land to make money off of the impending ice age ?that's diabolically smart !another way to cash in might be snowfall futures, but again, that's profitting from rather than mitigation

Impending Ice Age - What We Can Do (Mitigation)

Posted: February 11th, 2006, 2:18 pm
by ppauper
Someone emailed me this suggestion: