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My government spent $242,993,320,124 in Iraq and all I got was this lousy civil war

February 23rd, 2006, 6:46 pm

 
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My government spent $242,993,320,124 in Iraq and all I got was this lousy civil war

February 23rd, 2006, 6:53 pm

Dumb hippie missionaries. Just be thankful it's localized, next time they could be spending money to try to help you.
 
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February 23rd, 2006, 7:13 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: farmerDumb hippie missionaries. Just be thankful it's localized, next time they could be spending money to try to help you. Let there be lightning
 
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February 23rd, 2006, 7:40 pm

what's a hippie missionary, dare I ask
 
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February 23rd, 2006, 8:39 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: doreillyYeah, but Cheney made a bundle. More likely than not, Dubya made a bundle too. And, over 2000 of our young boys are dead too..... Just thought I'd brighten your day ........ Oh Yeah.... I forgot...... and we're going to give away control of our major ports too!!! To guess who???
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February 23rd, 2006, 8:52 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: AlanBQuoteOriginally posted by: doreillyYeah, but Cheney made a bundle. More likely than not, Dubya made a bundle too. And, over 2000 of our young boys are dead too..... Just thought I'd brighten your day ........ Oh Yeah.... I forgot...... and we're going to give away control of our major ports too!!! To guess who???PS: Civilians reported killed by military intervention in IraqMin: 28501 Max 32119 But thats ok since “We don’t do body counts”, General Tommy Franks, US Central Command
 
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February 24th, 2006, 11:14 am

Zeta reminds me..I recall there was supposed to be a huge swarm of evangelical Christians ready to go in after the troops and convert these poor ignorant Moslems to the ideals of peace, love, sex with children and creationism.Did any go ?
 
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My government spent $242,993,320,124 in Iraq and all I got was this lousy civil war

February 24th, 2006, 11:31 am

In conversations I've had with family and friends, I recall predicting that the day our troops leave that hell hole, known as Iraq, that the country would implode. I guess I was wrong. Its already imploding.
 
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February 24th, 2006, 1:31 pm

>>My government spent $242,993,320,124 in Iraq and all I got was this lousy civil war(a) it's not "your government", you're a pom(b) you got a lot more than that -- I'd encourage you to go to Iraq and see for yourself !
 
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February 24th, 2006, 3:42 pm

you know DCFC, we're not all bad eggs dor, did you mean the possible idealogical civil war about to errupt in the west, or the one in Iraq?
 
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February 24th, 2006, 4:28 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: zetayou know DCFC, we're not all bad eggs dor, did you mean the possible idealogical civil war about to errupt in the west, or the one in Iraq?I was referring to the Sunni Shiite showdown. The ideological civil war about to erupt in the west would have happened without the Iraq invasion, but it has probably brought it forward by about 10 years.
 
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February 24th, 2006, 4:34 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauper>>My government spent $242,993,320,124 in Iraq and all I got was this lousy civil war(a) it's not "your government", you're a pom(b) you got a lot more than that -- I'd encourage you to go to Iraq and see for yourself !a) Wrongb) I am more a city person, ones that are left standing that is, but list three other things that I have gotten and I will think about it
 
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February 24th, 2006, 5:05 pm

You know DCFC, we're not all bad eggs I agree.It's the "good" evangelicals that do the most damage, by helping the bad guys.You believe in a personal God ? Fine.What Christians lack is a bit of the Bible of the form:God took Zebedee to one side."Lord, look I do your work"God saw the work of Zebedee. Florence was lying in a pool of blood."Why do you harm this woman ?" asks God"I did not harm her, others did", replies Zebedee."Did you follow the leader who was stupid, yea more stupid than the beetle which eats the dung of a camel""Yes", said Zebedee. "Stupid is good. Wise men are never quite sure of their faith, and the leader I might have followed did not talk of his religion every 5 minutes"."So you chose good over wise ?" Asked God."Yes" said Zebedee"And when you saw that the good man put other good men to lead important missions like saving lives, but that they were also less wise than the dung that the desert beetle eats, and people died. Did you choose another leader ? ". "No", said Zebedee, "the people who died were almost all black and poor, and we are white and rich, and we follow your word in a very very slightly different way from these people, so they don't matter. But because I am a good man, I gave $5 to their aid".You get the drift.No religion has a commandment, to think things through. ECs emote over big issues that do not face them personally, and are thus more cruel in the execution of such actions than someone who actually gets their kicks from hurting people. When they learn of suffering caused by the policies, they convenice themselves that it's a price worth paying (paid by others), or better still that the people affected are bad, so deserve it. Condom users must be bad people, and of course remember AIDS being the vegeance of God. By the way did anyone explain why God liked lesbians so much ? They were about the lowest risk group.Who really cares about people in Africa ? Many aren't any sort of Christian, a good % aren't even Moslems either. So you can be "against" condoms there, and the might of the USA can be usedto stop "evil" condom use, whilst AIDS runs riot. You can feel smug about your stand, and the media won't bore you very often with yet another film of children dying slowly in Africa. Heck, they were going to die anyway soon of something, it's Africa, right ?Abortion isn't being banned, merely only allowed for the rich. Stem cell research doesn't yet build treatments you personally can use, so doesn't matter.Creatonism is bollocks, I've seen your other posts, you're smart enough to know that.So why do you support groups who lie to children ?You are in effect helping people to deceibe children about the nature of God. I'm not a christian, but that doesn't strike me as what you guys are supposed to be about.Catholics are well intentioned, so you give money to leaders who make very sure that the RICO laws aren't used on an outfit that organised the rape of children, and it's cover up.Moslems are shits, indeed most of them don't even have the sense to be white, so torturing them is fine.If ECs wanted torture to stop in camp X-Ray it would stop so fast you couldn't measure the time lag.Note there is a bit of a theme here. Children seem to get it in the neck first when EC policies get put into practice, though poor and coloured ones don't do well either.
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My government spent $242,993,320,124 in Iraq and all I got was this lousy civil war

February 24th, 2006, 6:38 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: DCFCZeta reminds me..I recall there was supposed to be a huge swarm of evangelical Christians ready to go in after the troops and convert these poor ignorant Moslems to the ideals of peace, love, sex with children and creationism.Did any go ?LOL....The point is if they ever came back, and in what condition....
 
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My government spent $242,993,320,124 in Iraq and all I got was this lousy civil war

February 24th, 2006, 6:53 pm

Well I've just had an incredible lunch and three pitchers of guiness, so it's a little unwise responding in this state DCFC but I'll take a shot at it. I can't help feel that what you're rejecting is cultural Christinaity, or that there is some redemptive value in actions, or in belonging to a church, some flavor of Christ or Christianity....is this correct? If so, we're on the same page. If you'd like to hear my background and why I am who am then I'd be happy to oblige, but don't worry I don't bible bash. As to the original topic, I could have sworn this issue of an Iraqi civil war was discussed in the early nineties. I remember a conversation on cnn on this topic. I was in high school at the time; a friend and I were watching in his converted garage in suburban Brisbane Australia and a statement was made to the effect ala Shi'ites vs Sunni 'boy, these people really hate each other'. The more things change, the more they stay the same, eh?
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