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October 22nd, 2006, 4:49 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: flairplayBut even you might vaguely recognize this canto: "First they came for the Jews, and I did not protest because I am not Jewish ...".isn't that what's supposed to happen when the mahdi gets here ?The Mahdi will offer the religion of Islam to the Jews and the Christians; if they accept it they will be spared, otherwise they will be killed.
 
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October 22nd, 2006, 7:32 pm

whether it's some mad Muslim mullah, or some crazed Neo NazQuote* The National Front is surprisingly popular among Muslim immigrants or second-generation Muslim citizens. For all its campaigning about immigration, Mr. Le Pen's party has always extended support to Arab and Islamic causes abroad, from Saddam's Iraq to Arafat's or Hamas Palestine, and from Al Qaeda to Iran. And it is as firmly anti-American and anti-Jewish as the Muslim community itself tends to be.* The attraction of the French far left, which accounts for another 20% of the national vote, toward Islam, rabid anti-Americanism, and even anti-Semitism, a phenomenon underscored by the emergence of Dieudonne, a former liberal music-hall humorist who has turned into an enormously popular French equivalent of Louis Farrakhan. Dieudonne, the son of a black Camerounese father and a white French mother, claims that Jews were the main European slave traders in the 17th and 18th centuries. He refers to civic and educational programs about the Holocaust as "memory pornography." He has welcomed the electoral victory of Hamas in Palestine. According to the philosopher Bernard-Henri Levy, he is in moral terms "Le Pen's son."Neo-Nazi's and The Islamists in Love.
 
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October 22nd, 2006, 7:49 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: menceyHowever it always has surprise me that is politically correct speak about genetic superiority of black people in sports, music or singing, ............ but if you talk about genetic predisposition outside that fields is politically incorrect. A kind of contradiction, isn't it?What might those predispositions be Mencey?
 
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October 22nd, 2006, 7:58 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: flairplayBut even you might vaguely recognize this canto: "First they came for the Jews, and I did not protest because I am not Jewish ..."Hamilton, what did the Pope do again when they came for the jews?
 
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October 22nd, 2006, 8:13 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: gardener3QuoteOriginally posted by: menceyHowever it always has surprise me that is politically correct speak about genetic superiority of black people in sports, music or singing, ............ but if you talk about genetic predisposition outside that fields is politically incorrect. A kind of contradiction, isn't it?What might those predispositions be Mencey?I did not wanted to enter in tha thema, I just wanted to point out the hypocresy of the political correctness. However due to your insistence....... Have you read Carl Huter? Carl Huter Do you believe that the human being is genetically condicionated or is conditionated solely by the environment? I believe probably there is a mixture of both. What do you believe?
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October 22nd, 2006, 8:20 pm

Hamilton, what did the Pope do again when they came for the jews? QuoteIn an exclusive interview in the August 2003 issue of "Inside the Vatican," Sir Martin Gilbert, the outstanding World War II and Holocaust historian, and Winston Churchill's official biographer, extols the actions of World War II Christians, Catholics and Pope Pius XII in rescuing great numbers of Jews during the Holocaust.Gilbert's glowing tribute is based on careful analysis of thousands of eyewitness accounts and extensive documentary evidence.The wide-ranging conversation between Gilbert, who is Jewish, and Inside the Vatican contributor William Doino took place in conjunction with the publication of Gilbert's 72nd book, The Righteous: The Unsung Heroes of the Holocaust" (Henry Holt: New York, 2003; 529pp.).Gilbert, who was knighted by Queen Elizabeth in 1995, granted the interview for the same reason he wrote The Righteous--because of his conviction that it was vital for the world to understand how many Christians, and particularly Catholics, risked their lives and those of their families in acting to rescue Jews during the Holocaust. Pius XII, Unsung Hero of the Holocaust
 
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October 22nd, 2006, 8:52 pm

Hamilton, I think these guys disagree with you:"Even though the 'Final Solution' was a Nazi invention, not a Church one, the Pontiff who headed the Roman Catholic Church during the Holocaust period, Pius XII, did nothing to either condemn it or protest against it; his standing by while blood was being shed deserves full condemnation, on behalf of future generations as well. At Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, there is an avenue on which every tree is dedicated to the memory of a Righteous Gentile. Had Pius XII fulfilled his basic duty, this avenue would be much longer and the lives of many more Jews would have been saved during those horrible days." Israeli Chief Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau“Over time I have become convinced that during World War II Pope Pius XII and the vast majority of European Christian leaders regarded the elimination of the Jews as no less beneficial than the destruction of Bolshevism.” Rabbi Richard L. Rubenstein, professor emeritus University of Bridgeport "Yet, if the Roman Catholic Church pursues its plans to canonize Pope Pius XII, it will be more damaging to its reputation than another huge explosion of pedophile priest scandals. For even child molestation – evil and sinister as it is – remains a step below complicity in the extermination of millions of people and ordering mass kidnapping, two great sins among many by which Pius XII disgraced himself." Schmuley Boteach, Orthodox Rabbi
 
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October 22nd, 2006, 9:15 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: mencey[Have you read Carl Huter? So what did Carl Huter say about blacks' pre-diposition or intelligence?
 
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October 22nd, 2006, 9:26 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: menceyDo you believe that the human being is genetically condicionated or is conditionated solely by the environment? I believe probably there is a mixture of both.Well, I could explain and offer my view point, but since you are a racist bigot with the intelligence of a 12 yr old, I think the discussion would prove fruitless.Quote What do you believe? I believe this: I think you, mencey, have been conditioned both genetically and by your environment to be a moron with zero tolerance for people that are different than you. Instead of talking about 'open societies' - about which, from your posts, seems obvious that you're clueless - why don't you work on 'opening' your mind.
 
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October 23rd, 2006, 2:02 am

Hamilton, I think these guys disagree with you:That's ok. You can check with the Chief Rabbi of Rome in 1945.
 
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October 23rd, 2006, 4:55 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: gardener3QuoteOriginally posted by: mencey[Have you read Carl Huter? So what did Carl Huter say about blacks' pre-diposition or intelligence?I see you have not read him.
 
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October 23rd, 2006, 5:06 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: gardener3QuoteOriginally posted by: menceyDo you believe that the human being is genetically condicionated or is conditionated solely by the environment? I believe probably there is a mixture of both.Well, I could explain and offer my view point, but since you are a racist bigot with the intelligence of a 12 yr old, I think the discussion would prove fruitless.Quote What do you believe? I believe this: I think you, mencey, have been conditioned both genetically and by your environment to be a moron with zero tolerance for people that are different than you. Instead of talking about 'open societies' - about which, from your posts, seems obvious that you're clueless - why don't you work on 'opening' your mind.easy words,.....So far as I know you have Muslims of every colour,........ arabs, berbers, blacks, asian, caucasians, hindu, etc...... Is not the skin colour what I am concerned about, is the dogma behind a religion who search for political dominance and is based in principles contrarian to the notion of open societies.Maybe you did not understand it yet, open society does not necesarily equal cheap liberalism,............ so go an review the concepts.
 
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October 23rd, 2006, 5:42 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: gardener3I believe this: I think you, mencey, have been conditioned both genetically (......).Are you racist? Because if you are not, then you may explain me why when I talk about genetically conditioned I am a racist, while when you talk about it you are not? Is that the difference between our skin colours give you the right to talk about it whitout being a racist while my skin colour convert me automatically in a racist?See what I mean, either we play all under the same rules or we break the rules
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October 23rd, 2006, 2:16 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: menceyIs that the difference between our skin colours give you the right to talk about it whitout being a racist while my skin colour convert me automatically in a racist?No, mencey, you being a dumb-ass and making racist remarks makes you a racist...
 
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October 23rd, 2006, 6:02 pm

Good book on Microfinance from MIT press.The Economics of MicrofinanceBeatriz Armendáriz and Jonathan Morduch Table of Contents and Sample ChaptersThe microfinance revolution, begun with independent initiatives in Latin America and South Asia starting in the 1970s, has so far allowed 65 million poor people around the world to receive small loans without collateral, build up assets, and buy insurance. This comprehensive survey of microfinance seeks to bridge the gap in the existing literature on microfinance between academic economists and practitioners. Both authors have pursued the subject not only in academia but in the field; Beatriz Armendariz founded a microfinance bank in Chiapas, Mexico, and Jonathan Morduch has done fieldwork in Bangladesh, China, and Indonesia.The authors move beyond the usual theoretical focus in the microfinance literature and draw on new developments in theories of contracts and incentives. They challenge conventional assumptions about how poor households save and build assets and how institutions can overcome market failures. The book provides an overview of microfinance by addressing a range of issues, including lessons from informal markets, savings and insurance, the role of women, the place of subsidies, impact measurement, and management incentives. It integrates theory with empirical data, citing studies from Asia, Africa, and Latin America and introducing ideas about asymmetric information, principal-agent theory, and household decision making in the context of microfinance. The Economics of Microfinance can be used by students in economics, public policy, and development studies. Mathematical notation is used to clarify some arguments, but the main points can be grasped without the math. Each chapter ends with analytically challenging exercises for advanced economics students.Beatriz Armendáriz is Lecturer in Economics at Harvard University, on leave from University College London, where she is Senior Lecturer in Economics.Jonathan Morduch is Associate Professor of Public Policy and Economics at New York University. Reviews "an excellent analysis of the evolution of microfinance and of the economic theory behind it."-- Huw Dixon, Times Higher Education Supplement Endorsements "The single best book on the economics of banking and finance, period, and certainly the most encompassing book I have read on microfinance. My copy is covered in notes and dog-eared from use."--Thomas Easton, New York Bureau Chief, The Economist "The microfinance movement is bringing hope, prosperity, and progress to many of the poorest people in the world. It is necessary to use critical economic reasoning to understand why the movement is such a success and how its exact achievements can be assessed and scrutinized. This book is a splendid contribution to that goal, and will be a great help to students, teachers, and practitioners in economics and the social sciences."--Amartya Sen, Lamont University Professor, Harvard University, Nobel Laureate in Economics (1998) "A great place to learn how and why microfinance really works, and where it hits its limits. The book, written by two leading young economists, brims with new evidence and provides fresh perspectives on old debates. Clearly written and sharply argued, it revisits and transforms important ideas about poverty reduction, finance, and incentives. The authors describe what we know and what we need to know in order to move forward."--Joseph E. Stiglitz, Professor of Economics and Finance, Columbia University, Nobel Laureate in Economics (2001)
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