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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 18th, 2022, 7:53 pm

AVELLANEDA is a common last name in Latin World. The link you provided applies only to argentina, and to certain segment of argentinians
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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 18th, 2022, 8:35 pm

AVELLANEDA is a common last name in Latin World. The link you provided applies only to argentina, and to certain segment of argentinians
I deliberately reduced the scope to "Argentina".

 The link you provided applies only to argentina, and to certain segment of argentinians
What does this mean?
 
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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 18th, 2022, 9:36 pm

That means there're dialects in Spanish. Exactly like in English.

The main features of Rioplatense Spanish include: a unique intonation influenced by Italian (explained by the large Italian settlements in the region); voseo (the use of ‘vos’ instead of ‘tú’ for the second person singular, and of ‘ustedes’ instead of ‘vosotros’ for the second person plural, with all the associated verb inflections); sheísmo (a particular pronunciation of ll and y).
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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 18th, 2022, 9:44 pm

Can someone pls help me pronounce "Avellaneda?"Ah-VAY-uh-NAY-dah?Ah-VELL-uh-NEDH-uh?Thank you
AVE  as in AVE MARIA
LLA ..... this is the hardest, it is an spanish letter, double L,  it could sound like "ya", almost
NE as en n'es pas
DA  as in DArmont
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl3fGCSlYa0
Actually, Ave Maria is in Latin, where v was pronounced as w, as far as I know. In Spanish it evolved into b (a soft b, more precisely, as it stands after a vowel). Spanish doesn’t have a v sound at all.
 
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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 19th, 2022, 5:01 am

Indeed
Ave Maria, gratia plena,
Maria, gratia plena,
Maria, gratia plena,
Ave, Ave, Dominus,
Dominus tecum.
Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus,
Et benedictus fructus ventris (tui),
Ventris tui, Jesus.
Ave Maria!

 
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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 19th, 2022, 11:09 am

That means there're dialects in Spanish. Exactly like in English.

The main features of Rioplatense Spanish include: a unique intonation influenced by Italian (explained by the large Italian settlements in the region); voseo (the use of ‘vos’ instead of ‘tú’ for the second person singular, and of ‘ustedes’ instead of ‘vosotros’ for the second person plural, with all the associated verb inflections); sheísmo (a particular pronunciation of ll and y).
I can identify by the accent if it is Argentina, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, MX, etc.  we all have a different accent.
Even worse, each latin american country has its own dialects/accent In COLOMBIA a guy from Pasto like TAGOMA in the south has a different accent from a guy in SANTANDER at the north 
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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 19th, 2022, 11:21 am

AVELLANEDA is a common last name in Latin World. The link you provided applies only to argentina, and to certain segment of argentinians
I deliberately reduced the scope to "Argentina".

 The link you provided applies only to argentina, and to certain segment of argentinians
What does this mean?
The accent in the countryside is different from the accent in Cordova, in Buenos Aires. The gauchos can be recognized easily
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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 19th, 2022, 11:28 am

I've heard that Argentina is 

45% Spanish
45% Italian

origins

10% indigenous.
 
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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 19th, 2022, 12:12 pm

No, it’s Argie, so not “ya” but “zh.”
jjjeee, not for my spanish ears, 
hehehe AVELLANEDA is kind of common in Latin world
The name of my First Grade teacher was Señor Avellaneda, a great guy I still remember
I understant that you recongnize sounds from your own background wich is different from my Latino background
Marco was Argentinian. My feeble Spanish is Argentinian. I was married to an Argentinian. And I lived in BA on and off for a few turbulent years!
 
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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 19th, 2022, 12:13 pm

I've heard that Argentina is 

45% Spanish
45% Italian

origins

10% indigenous.
And Germans.
 
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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 19th, 2022, 1:49 pm

I've heard that Argentina is 
45% Spanish
45% Italian
origins
10% indigenous.
There is the explanation why Argentina is fu...ed up! 
A lot of argentinians are proud of their Italian ancestors and not of bein Amerindians
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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 19th, 2022, 2:23 pm

 
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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 19th, 2022, 2:56 pm

I've heard that Argentina is 
45% Spanish
45% Italian
origins
10% indigenous.
There is the explanation why Argentina is fu...ed up! 
A lot of argentinians are proud of their Italian ancestors and not of bein Amerindians
Those with Italian ancestors employ the Amerindians as servants.
 
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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 19th, 2022, 3:06 pm

I've heard that Argentina is 
45% Spanish
45% Italian
origins
10% indigenous.
There is the explanation why Argentina is fu...ed up! 
A lot of argentinians are proud of their Italian ancestors and not of bein Amerindians
Those with Italian ancestors employ the Amerindians as servants.
Amen
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Re: How to Pronounce "Avellaneda"

June 19th, 2022, 8:14 pm