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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 22nd, 2017, 1:06 pm

Stream of Consciousness is alive and well and living in the Tower.

http://soshable.com/stream-of-conscious ... president/
 
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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 22nd, 2017, 3:24 pm

trump should continue to tweet
he is bypassing the press and speaking directly to the people
 
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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 22nd, 2017, 3:39 pm

trump should continue to tweet
he is bypassing the press and speaking directly to the people
Indeed, the first thing that comes into your head. James Joyce would be proud.
 
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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 22nd, 2017, 4:29 pm

trump should continue to tweet
he is bypassing the press and speaking directly to the people
Yes, and most people don't like what he's saying -- it's the rantings of the mad man.
 
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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 22nd, 2017, 5:50 pm

Or he could run everything via focus groups and spin doctors. He's probably less insane than Blair. The difference is that Blair pretended to be sane and fooled most people. Even if DT is mad there's method in his madness!
 
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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 22nd, 2017, 6:13 pm

There's some optimal middle ground for leadership style between spiteful ranting versus spineless polling.

Trump's tweets merely highlight the shallowness of his thoughts and the disorganization of his administration.

He needs a few more adults in the room!
 
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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 22nd, 2017, 6:38 pm

There's some optimal middle ground for leadership style between spiteful ranting versus spineless polling.

Trump's tweets merely highlight the shallowness of his thoughts and the disorganization of his administration.

He needs a few more adults in the room!
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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 22nd, 2017, 6:39 pm

I think you might be wrong! The two tails might be the maxima! Who wants a leader who qualifies everything he says?

His tweeting may have got him where he is! Not to mention that we are in The Age of Shallow Thinking.
 
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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 22nd, 2017, 9:06 pm

Indeed! In the Joyce/Vicus of recirculation we are in cycle (4), Not to worry, we will soon be in outrun's brave new #5.

The Viconian cycle consists of three recurring phases:

(1) The Theocratic or Divine Age, represented in primitive society by the family life of the cave, to which the thunderous voice of God has driven mankind;

(2) The Aristocratic or Heroic Age, characterized by incessant conflict between the ruling patricians and their subject plebeians;

(3) The Democratic Age, in which rank and privilege have finally been eradicated by the revolutions of the preceding age.

Currently, we are ensnared in the Fourth Age, as anticipated by Vico, and as explicated by any number of modern sources:

(4) The Chaotic Age, characterized by the bewildering collapse of democratic society, which is inherently dysfunctional and therefore riddled with a panoply of hellish and baffleplexing problems: conflict, violence, oppression, injustice corruption, poverty, ignorance, alienation, suffering, and terrorism.

The resolution of this nightmare age of unrelenting chaos is to evolve to the Fifth Age where we master the art of taming the ill-mannered recursion laws that define and characterize the Chaotic Age:

(5) The Cybernetic Age, in which the otherwise mind-boggling math of recursive loops is tamed and tuned to gracefully converge to the long-dreamed of Omega Point.

To emerge from the Chaotic Age and evolve into the Cybernetic Age, we are going to have to conscientiously educate ourselves in the STEM disciplines (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics) with a concentrated effort to master the fractious mathematics of recursive systems. 
 
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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 22nd, 2017, 9:08 pm

BTW I have been waiting years to find the right moment to make that point. 
Comes as no surprise.
 
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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 24th, 2017, 2:38 am

BTW I have been waiting years to find the right moment to make that point. 
Comes as no surprise.
Tis your moment in Vico's sun, what!

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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 24th, 2017, 3:28 am

(5) The Cybernetic Age, in which the otherwise mind-boggling math of recursive loops is tamed and tuned to gracefully converge to the long-dreamed of Omega Point.

To emerge from the Chaotic Age and evolve into the Cybernetic Age, we are going to have to conscientiously educate ourselves in the STEM disciplines (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics) with a concentrated effort to master the fractious mathematics of recursive systems. 
YES.
 
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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 24th, 2017, 11:25 am

BTW I have been waiting years to find the right moment to make that point. 
Comes as no surprise.
Tis your moment in Vico's sun, what!

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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 24th, 2017, 11:43 am

Even the Washington Post is getting in on the act.

Donald Trump’s distinctive rhetorical style — think of a drunk with a bullhorn reading aloud James Joyce’s “Finnegans Wake” under water — poses an almost insuperable challenge to people whose painful duty is to try to extract clarity from his effusions. For example, on Friday, during a long stream of semi-consciousness in Fort Worth, this man who as president would nominate members of the federal judiciary vowed to “open up” libel laws to make it easier to sue — to intimidate and punish — people who write “negative” things. Well.

I see a number of PhDs from this.
 
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Re: Finnegans Wake, by James Joyce

January 24th, 2017, 11:57 am

Even the Washington Post is getting in on the act.

Donald Trump’s distinctive rhetorical style — think of a drunk with a bullhorn reading aloud James Joyce’s “Finnegans Wake” under water — poses an almost insuperable challenge to people whose painful duty is to try to extract clarity from his effusions. For example, on Friday, during a long stream of semi-consciousness in Fort Worth, this man who as president would nominate members of the federal judiciary vowed to “open up” libel laws to make it easier to sue — to intimidate and punish — people who write “negative” things. Well.
at the moment, there is "libel tourism"
I believe that in the UK, the burden is on the defendant to prove the statement is true
in the US, in order for a public figure to sue for libel, they must prove by "Clear and Convincing Evidence" (far more than "the preponderence of evidence") that the defendant not only knew the statement was untrue but also made it with malice
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