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July 18th, 2007, 7:31 am

TJ,No need for blending, the book is a refined history of HCE.May I suggest some reading, a change is a s good as a rest here
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July 18th, 2007, 9:40 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnNo need for blending, the book is a refined history of HCE.Of course not, Finnigans is pre-blended. How do you think Joyce created such jewels as: shookatnaratatattar, kalospintheochromatokreening, Zovotrimaserovmeravmerouvian (I think I get spam for Zovotrim!), or the unforgettable and unpronounceable Bladyughfoulmoecklenburgwhurawhorascortastrumpapornanennykocksapastippatappatupperstrippuckputtanach? TJ's right -- blenders (set to level 11) were involved. About 80% of Joyce's words were one-time-use only which makes a bit of mockery of Zipf's Law. Rejoyce in this concordance to see what I mean.QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnMay I suggest some reading, a change is as good as a rest Ah, but will you wake rested or rest Waked?P.S. Cuchulainn, what's with the sudden Finniganiphilia? Was looking at core dumps getting too easy so you decided to try something more indecipherable?
 
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July 18th, 2007, 11:07 am

QuoteP.S. Cuchulainn, what's with the sudden Finniganiphilia? Was looking at core dumps getting too easy so you decided to try something more indecipherable? I was gloing to read Ulysses agin (first red when 16) but decided against it. Thought I might give Fw a go, especially since I have some reading time at the moment. Besides, I need a brake from talking, so a bit of light reading might do me some good.Here is another installment. I think ppauper will like this one, it's got a game of jeoperdy in itThe ages of heroes
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July 18th, 2007, 11:14 am

QuoteOriginally, Zipf's law stated that, in a corpus of natural language utterances, the frequency of any word is roughly inversely proportional to its rank in the frequency table. So, the most frequent word will occur approximately twice as often as the second most frequent word, which occurs twice as often as the fourth most frequent word, etc. The term has come to be used to refer to any of a family of related power law probability distributions.Joyce's words are uniformly distributed. It's logical, because Finnegans Wake is a history of mankind. It must be unbiased.
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July 18th, 2007, 6:38 pm

The Ballad of Persse O'Reilly You might need some background hereSwiftiana
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July 18th, 2007, 6:53 pm

And now FW, the songDropkick Murphys Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem This group took its name from an early Joyce workDubliners
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July 18th, 2007, 9:04 pm

Total crap.Like abstract art, just abysmal.No wonder you settled on a life of C++ - as penance!
 
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July 18th, 2007, 9:29 pm

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July 18th, 2007, 9:38 pm

Like I say, rubbish.
 
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July 18th, 2007, 10:23 pm

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July 19th, 2007, 11:57 am

Quote Like I say, rubbish.His books are an acquired taste, but what kind of monster doesn't like his poetry QuoteThough I thy Mithridates were,Framed to defy the poison-dart,Yet must thou fold me unawareTo know the rapture of thy heart,And I but render and confessThe malice of thy tenderness.For elegant and antique phrase,Dearest, my lips wax all too wise;Nor have I known a love whose praiseOur piping poets solemnize,Neither a love where may not beEver so little falsity.
 
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July 19th, 2007, 12:06 pm

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July 19th, 2007, 9:58 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: TraderJoeLike I say, rubbish.QuoteNon pote non sapere qui se stultum intellegit.Oh, so jibberish = intelligence. No wonder you're messed up .
 
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August 17th, 2007, 3:20 pm

Finnegans Wake, the CD It's a great complement to the book, it's hilarious.If you are interested in a first edition, try hererare booksFor a scholary skeleton, see John Campbell
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August 17th, 2007, 3:38 pm

QuoteHow much of the Viconian Cycle analysis is the equivalent to Elliot Waves, Gann Angles, and Fibonacci numbers??? Can we ever know?They are all subsmed in this book. Everything is in there, what has happened, what happens and what will happen. Blame Vico I suppose.P.S. (lagged) Fibonacci numbers are very useful for RNGQuoteVico is best known for his verum factum principle, first formulated in 1710 as part of his De Italorum Sapientia. The principle states that truth is verified through creation or invention and not, as per Descartes, through observation: “The criterion and rule of the true is to have made it. Accordingly, our clear and distinct idea of the mind cannot be a criterion of the mind itself, still less of other truths. For while the mind perceives itself, it does not make itself.” This criterion for truth would later shape the history of civilization in Vico’s opus, the Scienza Nuova (The New Science, 1725), since he would argue that civil life – like mathematics – is wholly constructed.Relying on a complex etymology, Vico argues in the Scienza Nuova that civilization develops in a recurring cycle (ricorso) of three ages: the divine, the heroic, and the human. Each age exhibits distinct political and social features and can be characterized by master tropes or figures of language. The giganti of the divine age rely on metaphor to compare, and thus comprehend, human and natural phenomena. In the heroic age, metonymy and synecdoche support the development of feudal or monarchic institutions embodied by idealized figures. The final age is characterized by popular democracy and reflection via irony; in this epoch, the rise of rationality leads to barbarie della reflessione or barbarism of reflection, and civilization descends once more into the poetic era. Taken together, the recurring cycle of three ages – common to every nation – constitutes for Vico a storia ideale eterna or ideal eternal history.Vico’s major work was poorly received during his own life but has since inspired a cadre of famous thinkers and artists, including Benedetto Croce, James Joyce, Bertrand Russell, Samuel Beckett, Isaiah Berlin, Northrop Frye, Harold Bloom, Edward Said, Marshall McLuhan, Thomas Berry, and Robert Anton Wilson. Later his work was received more favourably as in the case of Lord Monboddo to whom he was compared in a modern treatise.[1]For Ernst von Glasersfeld, Giambattista Vico is "the first true constructivist" (in An Introduction to Radical Constructivism). QuoteRadical Constructivism - ‘What is radical constructivism? It is an unconventional approach to the problem of knowledge and knowing. It starts from the assumption that knowledge, no matter how it is defined, is in the heads of persons, and that the thinking subject has no alternative but to construct what he or she knows on the basis of his or her own experience. What we make of experience constitutes the only world we consciously live in. It can be sorted into many kinds, such as things, self, others, and so on. But all kinds of experience are essentially subjective, and though I may find reasons to believe that my experience may not be unlike yours, I have no way of knowing that it is the same. The experience and interpretation of language are no exception.’
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