I mean, personally to you, leptoq, is the entire Israel enterprise worth it? Do you get something out of it that makes it worth having the animosity of so much of the rest of the world directed at you?

The big difference between the horrible regime in Syria and Israel, from where I sit, is that my country does not participate in the things the Syrian regime does. Israel, on the other hand, we give $4 billion+ a year with almost no restrictions.

I hope you can agree that people, and states, are more responsible for -- and should be more critical of -- the things that they actively support as opposed to things that they are not directly involved in.

If there was a serious possibility that my government was going to start bankrolling the Syrian regime without some overriding (and reasonable) plan to get them to stop being so evil, I'd almost certainly abandon criticism of Israel to oppose THAT foolishness.

But there is no such possibility.

I am not sure what's your country, marsden. Last time I checked your TAX returns, I didn't see that you paid any in US or UK, so your voice doesn't really matter.  

For your reference, US has allocated $1.1 billion to Syria in FY2023 (and around $16.2 billions since the beginning of civil war: https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-wit ... nce%202011.) 

But again this came out of pockets of people who actually pay taxes. 

>>> $4 billion+ a year with almost no restrictions.

Through the US military aid the administration indirectly subsidising the US defense industries …you just can’t lay-off valuable white-collar employees. 

For your reference, US has allocated $1.1 billion to Syria in FY2023 (and around $16.2 billions since the beginning of civil war

$0 to the regime.

What do you get out of being a loyal member of the Herzl Youth, leptoq?

At least Muslim suicide bombers think they get 72 virgins in the afterlife. What do you think you're getting?

>>> $4 billion+ a year with almost no restrictions.

Through the US military aid the administration indirectly subsidising the US defense industries …you just can’t lay-off valuable white-collar employees. 

Tru dat.

Which should make Israel question whether it's getting sucked into something not really in its interest by so happily accepting all the war toys.

What do you get out of it all, somor? Why not just walk away?

You probably could, you know.

What's in it for you that you don't?

For your reference, US has allocated $1.1 billion to Syria in FY2023 (and around $16.2 billions since the beginning of civil war

$0 to the regime.

What do you get out of being a loyal member of the Herzl Youth, leptoq?

At least Muslim suicide bombers think they get 72 virgins in the afterlife. What do you think you're getting?

As always you don't have an effin clue what you and your partner, cuch are talking about. (Erotic stories which both of you tried to share desperately so far (links can be easily found in this forum) are completely inappropriate for threads about horrible war. Don't get me wrong, I feel it should be shared somewhere else, for 18+ audience with scatological preferences)

What are the checks and balances for the money which were sent to Syria by US government? Where this money went to actually? You don't care of course, since you didn't contribute a single $1 to that 

>>> Why not just walk away?

Why wouldn’t you return back to good old England? 
At least the Uk welfare system is much generous compared to the one in America, And not to mention, lessening the chance of becoming homeless. 

I don't have to worry about neighboring populations trying to kill me where I live, somor. You?

Also -- this might not be as important to you as it is to me -- I don't have to buy into a heap ton of bullshit to rationalize my right to be where I am. Things like, American military aid to Israel is just subsidies to American military industry.

And my country is slowly becoming better. Our most crazy and evil people tend to be old and dying off; Israel at this point is pretty clearly getting crazier and more evil every year, probably because the religio-crazies have two or three times as many kids as the rational Israelis. What do you think Israeli politics will look like in twenty years? Maybe Jonestown on a massive scale?

As much as you like painting the US in rosy colours the reality is much gloomier.

If Donald returns to the White House it will signal the demise of the progressive movement. AND not to mention a possible second civil war. 

marsden, is excited about Rashiba Tlaib and Ilhan Omar turning US into heaven like Gaza Strip or Somali. 

As much as you like painting the US in rosy colours the reality is much gloomier.

If Donald returns to the White House it will signal the demise of the progressive movement. AND not to mention a possible second civil war. 

If Dumpster returns to the White House, American will become a police state.

But Israel is pretty much already there, isn't it?

Regardless of the outcome of the 2024 presidential election, I think that a civil uprising in America seems unavoidable. That of course if Trump wins the Republican primaries.  

Here in Israel everyone knows the kakistocracy’s days are numbered. 

Trump (despite being a crook) was the only president in recent history who didn't start new unnecessary wars like for example Nobel Peace winner Obama and others. In fact he removed US troops from overseas. Unless, Trump is convicted, he is likely to win the primaries. Current poll numbers suggest that he has good chances to beat Biden also, unless marsdens pull their trick like they did last time! Lol

Here in Israel everyone knows the kakistocracy’s days are numbered. 

And what will replace it?

Not that long ago, I thought that George W. Bush would surely be the worst President of my lifetime. You might soon be feeling something similar about Bibi.

 I think he IS the worst, together with Rehoboam.