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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 12:31 pm
by trackstar
QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperwhat kind of dog is that for it to be in the Russia threadIt is a Borzoi, also know as the Russian Wolfhound and dog of the czars. The ones I have seen are quiet and dignified around the house, but they love to run very fast when they get outside, so you need a lot of land for them to play on.Borzoi and Saluki are my favorite kinds of dogs.The Saluki is also known as "The Desert Hound'They love to run also!

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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 12:33 pm
by ppauper
QuoteOriginally posted by: hayesQuote"I have no health concerns about what I'm doing. Nothing has gone wrong so far. I haven't decided how big yet but they are definitely too small at the moment." Ok..... so far, so "normal"...... for these type of "woman gets biggest xyz surgery" articles I meanQuote"When I can afford it I want to enlarge my breasts from a C-cup to a DD, change the shape of my nose, ....." Well, actually from what we've read so far, that's not really all that surprising either......indeed, a few women have had ass-fat injected into their lips to make them bigger (she's using silicon instead) to look like Angelina Jolie.This one has gone way too far, and she looked better in the before picturequite a change in the 2 pictures:apart from the 4 year age difference, her skin has gone from orange to pink and her hair from jet black to blondeQuoteQuote" and I want to make my ears pointed like an elf. It's good to be different." Huh?..... indeed

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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 2:10 pm
by zerdna
Borzoi is hardly a czar's dog -- it's just a caricature image on the bottle of vodka, the image might have had czar stuffing caviar into his pockets just as well. It's just an elegant looking Russian hunting dog, the fastest dog in the world. Running is the only thing this dog is good for by the way. Otherwise it's an amazingly stupid animal, gets in all kind of trouble because of its inability to understand commands and general ineptitude. Same goes for Afghan borzoi, which is probably even more stupid than Russian borzoi, making it the stupidest breed i saw. Their stupidity is actually an accepted breed characteristic -- talk about intelligence not being hereditary .

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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 2:19 pm
by trackstar
QuoteOriginally posted by: zerdnaBorzoi is hardly a czar's dog -- it's just a caricature image on the bottle of vodka, the image might have had czar stuffing caviar into his pockets just as well. It's just an elegant looking Russian hunting dog, the fastest dog in the world. Running is the only thing this dog is good for by the way. Otherwise it's an amazingly stupid animal, gets in all kind of trouble because of its inability to understand commands and general ineptitude. Same goes for Afghan borzoi, which is probably even more stupid than Russian borzoi, making it the stupidest breed i saw. Their stupidity is actually an accepted breed characteristic -- talk about intelligence not being hereditary .Perhaps your perception has been shaped by the kinds of Borzoi you see on the Upper East Side and in Central Park/90s.Just like the kind of women that you date, they have been bred for looks and typiness to some abstract ideal - long legs, big boobs, luscious lips, vacant stare.Anyone who is serious about buying a dog should visit several breeders and see what the breeding program is like, observe the sires and bitches (correct terminology for female dogs used for breeding) and also spend time with some of the offspring from recent litters, if possible.If their top breeding priorities are long legs and fluffy tails, the head may be a little too small and the temperament nervous and snappy.I do not like dogs or women that snap too much, but I think that is one of the critical success factors for finding a place in your home.

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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 2:33 pm
by zerdna
What you say sounds like it has some ring of truth, but it's not accurate in most of the details. Both Russian and Afghan borzoi are not snappy -- they are just stupid. Good looking women are much more diverse in the way of character than these dogs. As far as how i now -- i had dogs, most of my relatives had dogs, many of my friends had dogs, i had plenty of interaction with most of the main breeds. Borzois are generally phlegmatic, indifferent dogs, very uninteresting to have unless you are a hunter -- that was my impression.

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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 2:42 pm
by trackstar
I did not say that Borzoi are snappy, but I do know of some kinds of dogs that have been bred and inbred for certain traits, like a long straight nose and coat quality, that over time have become prone to serious genetic problems - Collies, for example, can have very narrow skulls, which can lead to fatal brain damage and German Shepherds, bred for that classic low slung shepherd pose, have a strong tendency for hip dysplasia - a serious, expensive and sometimes also fatal condition. Shetland Sheepdogs are very cute, but they are quite snappy and love to bark - at anything.Adorable, but high maintenance and *noisy*!When you mention their "indifference", that is part of what I like about the Borzoi and I see it as dignity. Some dogs demand a lot of attention, always getting underfoot, jumping on people, and barking all the time. The Borzoi is quiet and reserved. I like dogs that are more independent, like cats, but still enjoy being patted from time to time and love a good run in the fields behind the house. Here is what I found quickly about the History of the Borzoi on Wiki; there are a number of breed sites and Kennel Club information is easy to find as well.Borzoi HistoryIt was long thought that Saluki type sighthounds were originally brought to Russia from Byzantium in the South about the 9th and 10th centuries and again later by the Mongol invaders from the East. However, now that the archeological archives and research results of the former USSR are open to scientists, it has become quite clear that the primal sighthound type evolved between the Kyrgyzstan, the lower Kazakhstan part of Altai and the Afghan plains, and that the earliest actual sighthound breeds were the plains Afghan hounds and the Kyrgyz Taigan.These ancient breeds then migrated South (founding the Tazi/Saluki branch) and West (founding the Stepnaya, Krimskaya and Hortaya branches) to develop into breeds adapted to those regions. This was a slow process which happened naturally through normal spreading of trade, with the silk and spice trade via the Silk Road being the prime vector.The more modern Psovaya Borzaya was founded on Stepnaya, Hortaya and the Ukrainian-Polish version of the old Hort. There were also imports of Western sighthound breeds to add to the height and weight. It was crossed as well with the Russian Laika specifically and singularly to add resistance against Northern cold and a longer and thicker coat than the Southern sighthounds were equipped with.All of these foundation types - Tazi, Hortaya, Stepnaya, Krimskaya and Hort - already possessed the instincts and agility necessary for hunting and bringing down wolves.The Psovoi was popular with the Tsars before the 1917 revolution. For centuries, Psovoi could not be purchased but only given as gifts from the Tsar. Grand Duke Nicholas Nicolaievich of Russia bred countless Psovoi at Perchino, his private estate.The Russian concept of hunting trials was instituted during the era of the Tsars. As well as providing exciting sport, the tests were used for selecting borzoi breeding stock; only the quickest and most intelligent hunting dogs went on to produce progeny. For the aristocracy these trials were a well-organized ceremony, sometimes going on for days, with the borzoi accompanied by mounted hunters and Foxhounds on the Russian steppe. Hares and other small game were by far the most numerous kills, but the hunters especially loved to test their dogs on wolf. If a wolf was sighted, the hunter would release a team of two or three borzoi. The dogs would pursue the wolf, attack its neck from both sides, and hold it until the hunter arrived. The classic kill was by the human hunter with a knife. Wolf trials are still a regular part of the hunting diploma for all Russian sightdog breeds of the relevant type, either singly or in pairs or trios, in their native country. Borzoi - WikiSee also:American Kennel Club - Borzoi"A graceful, elegant hound, the Borzoi is a sight hound, meaning he hunts by sight rather than scent. The breed's tall and rangy body allows him to chase quarry for long distances. Today, they are popular in the lure coursing field, and are often seen in the show and companion event rings as well. Their long, silky coat can be flat, wavy or curly and may be any color or combination of colors.A Look BackDeveloped by crossing Arabian greyhounds with a thick-coated, Russian breed, the Borzoi has been bred by the Russian aristocracy for hundreds of years. They were created to hunt wolves, fox and hare over the open plains of Russia, often in hunting parties of more than 100 dogs. Until 1936, the Borzoi was known as the Russian Wolfhound in America.Right Breed for You?Even though the Borzoi is large, the breed makes a great house pet. Although affectionate with their owners, they are rather catlike and have independent and undemanding natures. They need daily exercise, but will chase anything that moves, so they need to be kept on leash or in a fenced area. Regular brushing and bathing is necessary to maintain their lustrous coats."***Note their comment - the Borzoi has a catlike nature. Exactly what I would be looking for in a dog that would live in my house.

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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 3:15 pm
by Cuchulainn
QuoteShetland Sheepdogs are very cute, but they are quite snappy and love to bark - at anything."Kleine honden blaffen het hardst".

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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 3:17 pm
by ppauper
QuoteOriginally posted by: zerdna Both Russian and Afghan borzoi are not snappy -- they are just stupidthe pic looked like what I (not being a dog person) would call an afghan hound

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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 3:22 pm
by trackstar
Nope, but here is an Afghan Hound. I like those too.You are getting into some serious care requirements with this kind of coat though.Even the Borzoi and Saluki should be brushed regularly, but this one needs his own stylist!

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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 3:29 pm
by trackstar
QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteShetland Sheepdogs are very cute, but they are quite snappy and love to bark - at anything."Kleine honden blaffen het hardst".Defnitely.Here is another kleine honden wer blaffen het hardst!

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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 3:35 pm
by trackstar
well two more types and that is it for dog shopping today. Fairly small:PapillonSometimes these can be quiet, compared to other small breeds.andFairly large:SamoyedA great outdoors companion if you like hiking - best in cold climates, or s/he will suffer in the summer time with that thick coat.

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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 3:53 pm
by rmax
QuoteAdorable, but high maintenance and *noisy*!LOL - I wonder who this could also refer to!

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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 3:55 pm
by trackstar
QuoteOriginally posted by: rmaxQuoteAdorable, but high maintenance and *noisy*!LOL - I wonder who this could also refer to! Is zerdna adorable? It is so hard to tell on an Internet Forum....Richard Feynman certainly was!

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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 4:18 pm
by rmax
QuoteThere were 183 of us freshmen, and a bowling ball hanging from the three-story ceiling to just above the floor. Feynman walked in and, without a word, grabbed the ball and backed against the wall with the ball touching his nose. He let go, and the ball swung slowly 60 feet across the room and back ? stopping naturally just short of crushing his face. Then he took the ball again, stepped forward, and said: "I wanted to show you that I believe in what I'm going to teach you over the next two years." Michael Scott, as quoted in "Caltech Grad's Donation Honors Late Professor" in The Los Angeles Times (12 March 1989)

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Posted: November 24th, 2011, 4:57 pm
by daveangel
Today is Russia Watch day. Here is another nice one from the Motherland.News reader fired for showing Obama the middle finger.