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If barack hussein obama is ineligible, what happens

November 27th, 2008, 6:58 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelQuoteif you read what they say, they don't actually say the certificate is genuine, rather that he has an Hawaii birth certificate, which would also be the case if he were born in Kenya then registered in Hawaii what ? like the first line in the statement was not clear enough ?QuoteHONOLULU (AP) — State officials say there's no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.come on dude - just accept it. A madrassa graduate, black, liberal is your president.What's more he won it by popular vote of the US electorate who plainly didn't care about any of this manufactured argumentation about his birth certificate. (A little fact that seems to have been forgotten here.) Does the supreme court really have the arrogant disregard for the electorate necessary to dis-elect a president by coup yet again?
 
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November 27th, 2008, 7:18 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelQuoteif you read what they say, they don't actually say the certificate is genuine, rather that he has an Hawaii birth certificate, which would also be the case if he were born in Kenya then registered in Hawaii what ? like the first line in the statement was not clear enough ?QuoteHONOLULU (AP) — State officials say there's no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.Like I said, read what she actually said:>> Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, >>have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.That's very different from what the heading and first sentence implyThere are no quotes from either official that state that Obama was born in Hawaii.Learn to read
 
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If barack hussein obama is ineligible, what happens

November 27th, 2008, 11:32 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: MarsdenHas anyone else noticed that tpaper's icon looks a little like the next President of the United States?indeed, we could be twins !If you were twins, then you'd be in an excellent position to clear up exactly where Osama was born.
 
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November 28th, 2008, 8:05 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: migalleyQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: MarsdenHas anyone else noticed that tpaper's icon looks a little like the next President of the United States?indeed, we could be twins !If you were twins, then you'd be in an excellent position to clear up exactly where Osama was born.It is a well known fact that Barack Obama was born in a manger ... in a little town called Bethlehem."Away in a manger, no crib for a bed, the little lord Barack ... "
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November 28th, 2008, 2:26 pm

To add to my earlier post, what the official seems to have said was that Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate, not that he was born in Hawaii.If Obama was indeed born in Kenya and his birth subsequently registered in Hawaii where his mother lived, he would be issued with a Hawaii birth certificate, but one which didn't say that he was born in Hawaii, so the official's statement doesn't exclude that.This is at the crux of those lawsuits: they wany to see the birth certificate so they can see what it says about where he was born.When these cases started, like you I thought it was a Hail Mary, but Obama's response has been bizarre.If he'd simply sent an aide over to the courthouse and shown them his birth certificate, all of this would have gone away.Instead, he's spent what, hundreds of thousands of dollars ? by now millions ? on lawyering uo and arguing that members of the public "lack standing" to challenge his eligibility, and you've got to wonder why he'd go to that trouble. That's what provoked the Keyes suit: as a presidential candidate himself, Alan Keyes should have standingThis is all very silly and all Obama needs to do is produce a birth certificateI'd go further: if Obama did abandon his citizenship in Indonesia as some argue, and didn't apply to have it reinstated, then he's in the US illegally and should be deported. McCain may also need to produce a birth certificate: some have argued that he may have been born at a hospital in Colon OUTSIDE the Canal Zone, but what that changes is unclear as both his parents were US citizens and of age.Incidentally, although Mitt Romney was born in the US, his father George who ran for pres. in 1968 was born in Mexico, because a number of mormons moved there when the US clamped down on polygamy.
 
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November 28th, 2008, 2:41 pm

you really are reaching here.... not only did you not want him to win but now he has won you have continue with this asinine debate.Even if he was born outside the US, he is still an American as his mother is American. Now I know you are going to bring up the issue that his mother was just shy of 19 but subsequent acts of Congress relaxed the requirement to five years in the U.S., including just two years after the age of 14, meaning Dunham could have been 16 and still qualified even if Obama was born in another country.So come on, cut this cr*p out.
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November 28th, 2008, 3:00 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelyou really are reaching here.... not only did you not want him to win but now he has won you have continue with this asinine debate.Even if he was born outside the US, he is still an American as his mother is Americanthe issue is whether he's natural born.......Some of us respect the constitution.
 
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November 28th, 2008, 3:05 pm

and once again, all that obama needs to do to make all this go away is send an aide over to the courthouse with his birth certificate.You've got to wonder why he simply doesn't do thatWhen he ran, he must have signed forms on which he stated that he was eligible, so it's not as though this has come as a surprise to him
 
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November 28th, 2008, 3:17 pm

QuoteSome of us respect the constitution.some of you are just poor losers.
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November 28th, 2008, 6:43 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelcontinue with this asinine debateyou might notice that the debate I started was the very reasonable question of what happens in the event that obama is constitutionally ineligible. No one seems to know, although Dr PaperCut and MigAlley and marsden understand the issueOthers, such as yourself Mr Angel, chose to hijack this thread.
 
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November 28th, 2008, 10:31 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelcontinue with this asinine debateyou might notice that the debate I started was the very reasonable question of what happens in the event that obama is constitutionally ineligible. No one seems to know, although Dr PaperCut and MigAlley and marsden understand the issueOthers, such as yourself Mr Angel, chose to hijack this thread.And insisting on your opinion that Obama is not eligible is not hijacking this thread? It's certainly not the same issue as what happens if the supremes choose to hijack the election.
 
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November 29th, 2008, 5:59 am

ppauper,which of his relatives claim he was born in Kenya?
 
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November 29th, 2008, 7:17 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelcontinue with this asinine debateyou might notice that the debate I started was the very reasonable question of what happens in the event that obama is constitutionally ineligible. No one seems to know, although Dr PaperCut and MigAlley and marsden understand the issueOthers, such as yourself Mr Angel, chose to hijack this thread.The debate started with a proposition of "what if ?" but has now degenerated to you and migalley's attempt at continuing with your propaganda war. To a large extent, its you who has hijacked your own thread.
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November 29th, 2008, 2:40 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperQuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelcontinue with this asinine debateyou might notice that the debate I started was the very reasonable question of what happens in the event that obama is constitutionally ineligible. No one seems to know, although Dr PaperCut and MigAlley and marsden understand the issueOthers, such as yourself Mr Angel, chose to hijack this thread.The debate started with a proposition of "what if ?" but has now degenerated to you and migalley's attempt at continuing with your propaganda war. To a large extent, its you who has hijacked your own thread.no, I made the mistake of replying to your thread-jacking
 
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November 29th, 2008, 2:41 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: kwoksun2000ppauper,which of his relatives claim he was born in Kenya?Berg's suit claims the senator's grandmother, brother and sister, who live in Kenya, believe they were present during Obama's birth in the African country.
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