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QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaI'm surprised you got this much. I was sure jawabean would deny the existence of asteroid as just an other creation of the astrophysics mafia.look, i dont deny existence of Universe or some objects flying there at high speeds and colliding with each other.i think that "laws of nature", which we discovered to kinda work on Earth, can not be applying to entire Universe. ok, they can be applied, but we have to understand that most likely they're not applied properly. so you boil water in a kettel, study this process very well then start talking about red dwarfs and other utter crap based on what you've learned from this one liter of water. that's what astrophysicists do, and it's b/s.
 
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December 31st, 2009, 9:55 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: jawabeanQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaI'm surprised you got this much. I was sure jawabean would deny the existence of asteroid as just an other creation of the astrophysics mafia.look, i dont deny existence of Universe or some objects flying there at high speeds and colliding with each other.i think that "laws of nature", which we discovered to kinda work on Earth, can not be applying to entire Universe. ok, they can be applied, but we have to understand that most likely they're not applied properly. so you boil water in a kettel, study this process very well then start talking about red dwarfs and other utter crap based on what you've learned from this one liter of water. that's what astrophysicists do, and it's b/s.says here they could be on to something....
 
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December 31st, 2009, 11:21 am

"Blue Moon" to Shine on New Year's Eve - National Geographic Dec 30For the first time in almost 20 years, a bright "blue moon" will grace New Year's Eve celebrations worldwide. If the skies are clear, revelers looking up at midnight will get an eyeful of the second full moon of the month—commonly called a blue moon. The last time a blue moon appeared on New Year's Eve was in 1990, and it won't happen again until 2028. A blue moon isn't actually blue—as commonly defined, the name reflects the relative rarity of two full moons in a month and is linked to the saying "once in a blue moon." ...
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December 31st, 2009, 12:14 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: jawabeanQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaI'm surprised you got this much. I was sure jawabean would deny the existence of asteroid as just an other creation of the astrophysics mafia.look, i dont deny existence of Universe or some objects flying there at high speeds and colliding with each other.i think that "laws of nature", which we discovered to kinda work on Earth, can not be applying to entire Universe. ok, they can be applied, but we have to understand that most likely they're not applied properly. so you boil water in a kettel, study this process very well then start talking about red dwarfs and other utter crap based on what you've learned from this one liter of water. that's what astrophysicists do, and it's b/s.Although I do agree with your skepticism qualitatively, you carry it too far quantitatively. Your "boil water in a kettel" story belittles the vast amounts of observational astronomical data and ground-based physical experiment. For example what are we to conclude from ground-based experiments in spectroscopy (e.g., the spectral lines that appear in a flame when silicon is added to the fire) and the finding of those same patterns of lines in the light coming from stars? And if those lines shift a small amount toward the red or the blue, what might we conclude? I do agree that a great deal of extrapolation occurs in astrophysics but I think you'd be surprised by the mesh-work of observation and experiment that cross-validate a great deal of it. No doubt, a non-trivial amount of what we think we know about the universe is wrong. Yet a very large amount is probably correct because the likelihood that a different unknown astrophysical phenomena exactly replicates the results of a known terraphysical phenomena is quite low.
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December 31st, 2009, 12:46 pm

To resume another discussion from the fall:NASA Chooses Three Finalists for Next Space Mission - AllGov Dec 31On the staffing side, ppauper did not make the cut because of his objections to the training requirements.I have been short listed as an alternate astronaut, if a manned program is selected.
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Hole in the Moon Could Shelter Colonists - FOX News Jan 2"The moon may not be made of Swiss cheese, but it appears to have at least one deep hole, a vertical skylight that could serve as a protective lunar base for future astronauts."We discovered a vertical hole on the moon," an international team of scientists recently announced.The gaping, dark pit on the near side of the moon is as big as a city block and deep as a modest skyscraper. It is thought to be a collapsed lava tube, created perhaps billions of years ago when the moon was warmer and volcanically active. The moon, overall, is more than 4 billion years old.The discovery, detailed in the journal Geophysical Research Letters in October, was made using data from the moon-orbiting Japanese SELENE spacecraft. It was not widely reported at the time, and the journal announced it today. The work was led by Junichi Haruyama of the Japanese Space Agency JAXA....Recent discoveries of water and water ice on the moon hold promise that astronauts could journey back and stay for longer periods, perhaps even establish lunar colonies. But a remaining hurdle to setting up a permanent moon base is devising shelter to shield colonists from radiation and meteor strikes that befall the gray world, which has no protective atmosphere or magnetosphere."Because lava tubes are sheltered from the harsh environment on the moon's surface, such tubes could one day be useful for lunar bases," the scientists said in a statement.Similar Mars caves have found and also envisioned as potential shelters, should humans desire to return to a sort of modernized cave man existence."...
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QuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarHole in the Moon Could Shelter Colonists - FOX News Jan 2...Great! Humanity has come full circle. We're back to living in caves! Will Ogg.2536253.Human be dragging Deena.8632387.Human by her oxygen hose back to this cave for some dehydrated rømmegrøt.
 
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QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarHole in the Moon Could Shelter Colonists - FOX News Jan 2...Great! Humanity has come full circle. We're back to living in caves! Will Ogg.2536253.Human be dragging Deena.8632387.Human by her oxygen hose back to this cave for some dehydrated rømmegrøt. Maybe Deena will be dragging Ogg for chocolate cake! ...
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January 5th, 2010, 2:19 am

Five New Planets Found; Hotter Than Molten Lava - National Geographic Jan 4"Five new planets have been found orbiting distant stars—the first confirmed new worlds from NASA's recently launched Kepler space telescope mission, astronomers announced today. Like many of the more than 400 exoplanets—planets outside our solar system—found to date, the new planets are so-called hot Jupiters. They're about the same mass as Jupiter and orbit very close to their host stars, which makes the planets relatively easy to spot from Earth. The smallest of the new planets is about the same size as Neptune, though much more massive. All of the planets are hotter than molten lava and could turn gold to goo, according to NASA temperature estimates. Dubbed Kepler 4b, 5b, 6b, 7b, and 8b, the five new planets range in temperature from 2,000 to 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit (1,090 to 1,650 degrees Celsius), William Borucki, Kepler's principal investigator, said today during a press briefing at the American Astronomical Society's annual meeting in Washington, D.C. One of the worlds, Kepler 7b, is among the lowest-density planets yet found, with about the same density as Styrofoam, he said."...Chart of Planet Size and Temperature
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QuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarHole in the Moon Could Shelter Colonists - FOX News Jan 2...Great! Humanity has come full circle. We're back to living in caves! Will Ogg.2536253.Human be dragging Deena.8632387.Human by her oxygen hose back to this cave for some dehydrated rømmegrøt. Maybe Deena will be dragging Ogg for chocolate cake! ...Or worse! Deena will be dragging Ogg to Moon Depot to look at patio furniture and paint swatches ("should we paint the moon room in Crater Ochre or Tycho Teal?").
 
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QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaOr worse! Deena will be dragging Ogg to Moon Depot to look at patio furniture and paint swatches ("should we paint the moon room in Crater Ochre or Tycho Teal?"). And Ogg just wants to watch Gravity-free Football and drink Lunar Brew all weekend! Maybe they can at least stick with the primitive theme for the Moon Cave walls:
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QuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaOr worse! Deena will be dragging Ogg to Moon Depot to look at patio furniture and paint swatches ("should we paint the moon room in Crater Ochre or Tycho Teal?"). And Ogg just wants to watch Gravity-free Football and drink Lunar Brew all weekend! Maybe they can at least stick with the primitive theme for the Moon Cave walls:Exactly! But then Deena complains about having "dead animals" on the walls. She wants a pretty floral pattern. What's next? Does Ogg have to use a fractal doily under his Space Mug of Copernicus Copper Ale or Brahe Double Bock? ACK!
 
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QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaOr worse! Deena will be dragging Ogg to Moon Depot to look at patio furniture and paint swatches ("should we paint the moon room in Crater Ochre or Tycho Teal?"). And Ogg just wants to watch Gravity-free Football and drink Lunar Brew all weekend! Maybe they can at least stick with the primitive theme for the Moon Cave walls:Exactly! But then Deena complains about having "dead animals" on the walls. She wants a pretty floral pattern. What's next? Does Ogg have to use a fractal doily under his Space Mug of Copernicus Copper Ale or Brahe Double Bock? ACK!Goodness, by the time that we have colonized Moon, you think there will still be such dichotomies in male and female behavior? Maybe they should just live in separate dormitories most of the year (one Spartan bunker for the males and one furnished by the best interior decorator money can buy, $9,000 shower curtains and all that) for the females. They get together once in the spring only. It works very well for certain animal species...
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January 6th, 2010, 12:14 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaOr worse! Deena will be dragging Ogg to Moon Depot to look at patio furniture and paint swatches ("should we paint the moon room in Crater Ochre or Tycho Teal?"). And Ogg just wants to watch Gravity-free Football and drink Lunar Brew all weekend! Maybe they can at least stick with the primitive theme for the Moon Cave walls:Exactly! But then Deena complains about having "dead animals" on the walls. She wants a pretty floral pattern. What's next? Does Ogg have to use a fractal doily under his Space Mug of Copernicus Copper Ale or Brahe Double Bock? ACK!Goodness, by the time that we have colonized Moon, you think there will still be such dichotomies in male and female behavior? Maybe they should just live in separate dormitories most of the year (one Spartan bunker for the males and one furnished by the best interior decorator money can buy, $9,000 shower curtains and all that). They get together once in the spring only. It works very well for certain animal species... Men are from Mars, women are from Venus, put them together on the Moon and they will still disagree about stuff. The dormitory idea sounds rational -- each side gets what they want and we can build a hotel between the two dorms for rendezvous. But lets be fair, here. If the women get $9,000 shower curtains, then the men get $9000 titanium monofiber turbocharged fishing rods.
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