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December 23rd, 2009, 2:58 pm

QuoteI hear it's a big date on the Solar Temple Cultscary
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December 23rd, 2009, 3:03 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelQuoteI hear it's a big date on the Solar Temple Cultscary And you said you liked 21st You did not realise what you were getting into! Did you not read the prospectus?
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December 23rd, 2009, 3:05 pm

We let ppauper go this year, but da is one of my top choices for 2010.
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December 23rd, 2009, 3:09 pm

Quote And you said you liked 21st You did not realise what you were getting into! Did you not read the prospectus? I am a simple lad - I like the 21st 'cos the day i slightly longer on the 22nd ....
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December 23rd, 2009, 4:20 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: jawabeanJanuary 1 is the least meaningful of new years. it's not linked to anything natural. no frame of reference.The Julian Calendar, which had exactly 365.25 days per year, was adopted in 46 B.C.E., which is equivalent to -45 C.E. (there being no year 0).The Gregorian calendar was adopted in 1582 after moving the Julian date forward by 10 days. The Gregorian Calendar has years of 365.2425 days, and is pretty accurate.So, for 1627 years, an additional 0.0075 days were being accrued each year, for a total of about 12 days. Pope Gregory "corrected" all but two days, which would put Caeser's original January 1 at December 29, still about 8 days off solstice.I suspect Caesar was working off of an earlier calendar that had created more error, and that originally the year was intended to begin on the solstice.
 
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December 23rd, 2009, 8:11 pm

QuoteI suspect Caesar was working off of an earlier calendar that had created more error, and that originally the year was intended to begin on the solstice. I think he made a division error.
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December 23rd, 2009, 9:03 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: MarsdenI suspect Caesar was working off of an earlier calendar that had created more error, and that originally the year was intended to begin on the solstice.if all these ancient cultures were so aware of astronomy, they would have noticed that 1 Jan was off the solstice day. so, i doubt that these calendars were based on solstice
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January 10th, 2010, 6:15 pm

After careful consideration, and a few drinks, I've decided that the Metonic Cycle is the most sensible way to measure time. In particular, in 1995 the Winter Solstice and the New Moon coincided, which will re-occur in 2014, each Metonic Cycle having 19 years and 235 Lunar Months. So today is the 25th day of the 173rd month of the current cycle, and the 20th day of the 14th year.Now, if my number theory serves me, this suggests a clever way of keeping track of the day of the cycle: just multiply the day of the month by the day of the year, and you get a complete set of all of the numbers from zero to 6940 (the number of days in a complete cycle) over the course of a Cycle. So today would be day 500, and tomorrow will be day 546 (simple ordering is over-rated). Happy 500, everyone!The Metonic Cycle pairing of 19 Solar Years with 235 Lunar Months is off by a few hours, but very close. Every couple of lifetimes it would have to be adjusted by a day, but not very many people, relatively speaking, would even have to live with that.
 
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January 11th, 2010, 1:10 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: MarsdenAfter careful consideration, and a few drinks, I've decided that the Metonic Cycle is the most sensible way to measure time.Interesting (both the calendar and your selection process )With a few more drinks we can discover that 235 lunar months is 47 cycles of 5 months each and that each 5 month cycle can consist of 47 weeks of pi days each. Thus, the Metonic cycle is exactly 47*47*pi days long! Hmmm... What will the Celtic Reconstructionists think of all this lunacy? When does the moonrise shine down the doorway at Newgrange?
 
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January 11th, 2010, 1:58 am

You see? And as Archimedes and Gauss both recognized, any time pi appears in a solution, the solution is correct.It's high time we all return to lunacy, which is clearly what God intended.
 
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January 11th, 2010, 8:38 am

Mmmmm pie.
 
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January 11th, 2010, 12:45 pm

QuoteHmmm... What will the Celtic Reconstructionists think of all this lunacy? When does the moonrise shine down the doorway at Newgrange?No problem. In fact, we have a vacancy for a few Lunatics like Marsden to help us to the solstice bonfire up and running No previous experience required.
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January 11th, 2010, 1:21 pm

Excellent! If both the CRs and the gods are in favor and it involves yummy pie, then who could object except the Diabetes Foundation? Finally, if farmer's voting thread is to be believed, it seems that a large percentage of households are already governed by lunar cycles.Even the name is good. MeTonic sounds like a new age energy drink ("Now with 100% all-natural organic solstine and lunine")!
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January 11th, 2010, 1:39 pm

Ussherites welcome around the bonfire as well! They can discuss the relative merits of 500 and 6014 with the Lunis!
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January 11th, 2010, 1:57 pm

Don't forget these:But they are *not* the only ones on the Planet!We will make our own gourmet variety, with liqueur added in for many exciting flavors.Amaretto Marshmallow Moonbeams..?
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