QuoteOriginally posted by: dunrewppQuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarI have to say, to the extent that you can tell the religious or cultural background on a poster based on their name or avatar, I have found the possible Muslims on this Forum to be intelligent and thoughtful people. They put up with a lot of garbage quite gracefully too.To the most recent poster, I have read the Qu'ran, and I do not have time to read the Terrors of Islam. I am open-minded, but why waste an evening reading something when you already know the arguments. It is not great literature and it is not the foundation of one of the world's major religions.I oppose bashing groups and individuals based on race, religion, creed, or sexual orientation.This is not going to be a popular position, I know, so I am ready.First off, your position is not only unpopular, but, worse, it is wrong.Let stand up among us one of those "possible Muslims on this Forum to be intelligent and thoughtful people". The issue is whether they are open-minded and grounded in observable and publicly accessible reality. I have lived a lifetime among muslims. I KNOW them! I have found them steeped in an arrested world of suffocating religiosity and incurable arrogance.How can I tell "the religious or cultural background on a poster based on their name or avatar"? I can simply because I know this Owais dude. It's not the first time he has posted cretenist comments. But I do remember that some time ago he praised you as one of his admirees.trackstar - Is it really true that "you already know the arguments" in THE TERRORS OF ISLAM? If so, then that's quite impressive. But you were not the one who was asked to read it. It was Owais. Did he? Will he ever? By the way, you seem to give Owais too much credit. Trust me, he does not deserve it. Do not waste your kindness.I imagined you much wiser than upholding Quran because, as you indicated, it is "the foundation of one of the world's major religions". I am baffled: What's your point? The greater the illogic, the greater the falsehood, the greater the stupidity of a creed measured by any metric, therefore, the greater its worth, its truth, its ability to command respect? You baffle me.So how is logical to make judgements on groups of people as diverse as those living from Albania to China based on a couple people you met? Perhaps you could argue that they all share common belief in a book. But you haven't read the book. Incurable arrogance?