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September 14th, 2010, 10:41 am

Muslims bombers are men. So they can't just put a bunch of female bombers through security. The Tea Party movement is not Hitler, so they have an easy time fielding Palin and Bachmann and O'Donnell.
 
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September 14th, 2010, 2:00 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: zerdnaQuoteSoraya M was murdered by the Islamic equivalent of the Tea Party amnd Pastor Jones -- provincial demagogues who don't like to be crossed by someone with a sense of humanity and the courage to act on it.Fermion's psychobabble proclamations that someone is like a fascist, or someone is just like islamic terrorist, or like a killer of women remind me often this pearl from "Stuff White People Like". Denying similarities because they are not an exact equality is a fun game for morons, eh? It's like denying a correlation because it isn't 1.Quote"Being a truly advanced white person means being able to speak with authority about pretty much any field of conversation- especially politics. In order for white people to streamline the process of knowing everything, all human beings can be neatly filed into one of two categories: People I Agree With, and People Who are Just Like Adolf Hitler."I guess they're talking about your Christian friend Glenn Beck (you know, the one with Nazi Tourette's). If they had ever met you, it would be you they were talking about.QuoteDid tea party and pastor Jones stone some woman, Ferm? I'd like to hear about it to understand the evidence for the likeness between them and those who did. "Sense of humanity"? Sense of humanity had as much to do with stoning her as the smell of your dirty underwear.Back to your fecal fetish again? QuoteShe was stoned after being accused of infidelity. I didn't see the movieI guess that explains your arrogant ignorance then. The accusation of infidelity was merely the murder weapon of a village moron who was spurned by a woman who was full of humanity.
 
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September 14th, 2010, 3:31 pm

QuoteDenying similarities because they are not an exact equality is a fun game for morons, eh? It's like denying a correlation because it isn't 1.Tea Party = Taliban, because the Taliban always collect their cigarette butts after stoning their women. Could you list the similarities Fermion?We're all dying to know, as Soraya M already did, or did you need watch the directors' commentary?
 
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September 14th, 2010, 3:33 pm

QuoteThe accusation of infidelityPerhaps you are unaware of the uses of the accusation of infidelity in Islam, Mufti Fermion.
 
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September 14th, 2010, 3:42 pm

QuoteI guess they're talking about your Christian friend Glenn Beck (you know, the one with Nazi Tourette's). If they had ever met you, it would be you they were talking about.Ah yes, the Argumentum Ad Hitlerum.
 
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September 14th, 2010, 3:51 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: HamiltonQuoteDenying similarities because they are not an exact equality is a fun game for morons, eh? It's like denying a correlation because it isn't 1.Tea Party = Taliban, because the Taliban always collect their cigarette butts after stoning their women. Could you list the similarities Fermion?Already done: extremist demagoguery in defiance of any sense of humanity.QuoteWe're all dying to know, as Soraya M already did, or did you need watch the directors' commentary?The fact that many people still living in medieval conditions use medieval methods of punishment for supposed crimes that modern folk do not consider crimes is no surprise to anyone with an ounce of intelligence. Nor is the fact that mob violence can be incited for personal reasons -- or political reasons as Tea Party folk like to threaten. The story of Soraya M was the way that a religious dogmatic culture can be used for such ends. The fact that it was medieval in nature is not the real story except to those like you who have a racist agenda based on hatred for muslims. My contempt for religious bigotry and mob violence is equal opportunity. Yours, by contrast, is selective.
 
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September 14th, 2010, 3:53 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: HamiltonQuoteI guess they're talking about your Christian friend Glenn Beck (you know, the one with Nazi Tourette's). If they had ever met you, it would be you they were talking about.Ah yes, the Argumentum Ad Hitlerum.Exactly; Beck's favorite line of attack.
 
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September 14th, 2010, 3:59 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: HamiltonWomen's rights violations happen all over the world. Whether it is stoning, honor killings, domestic violence, or many other atrocities toward women, we need your help. By registering your name and email address, you can be a part of our e-petition that will be sent to the United Nations general secretary and the United States' secretary of state. Lending your name will make a difference.If you would like to get involved, there are a number of organizations supporting the film who are working on issues related to women? and human rights. Contact them today.Human Rights WatchCareful, you'll upset bronto.QuoteVital Voices Global PartnershipCreating a Decade of Investing in Women to Improve the WorldWomen for Women International Helping Women Survivors of War Rebuild Their LivesThe Institute for the Economic Empowerment of WomenIndependent Women's ForumAll Issues Are Womenπs IssuesNow you'll have farmer foaming at the mouth.
 
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September 14th, 2010, 4:00 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: FermionThe fact that many people still living in medieval conditions use medieval methods of punishment for supposed crimes that modern folk do not consider crimes is no surprise to anyone with an ounce of intelligence. Intelligence and decency are not the same thing. Does it outrage you Fermion? Like Israel does?
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September 14th, 2010, 4:02 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: FermionQuoteOriginally posted by: HamiltonWomen's rights violations happen all over the world. Whether it is stoning, honor killings, domestic violence, or many other atrocities toward women, we need your help. By registering your name and email address, you can be a part of our e-petition that will be sent to the United Nations general secretary and the United States' secretary of state. Lending your name will make a difference.If you would like to get involved, there are a number of organizations supporting the film who are working on issues related to women? and human rights. Contact them today.Human Rights WatchCareful, you'll upset bronto.What is quite sad, upsetting, and I guess on a psychological level interesting is to see you so hell bent on proving a point, lose your common sense.
 
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September 14th, 2010, 4:27 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: brontosaurusQuoteOriginally posted by: FermionThe fact that many people still living in medieval conditions use medieval methods of punishment for supposed crimes that modern folk do not consider crimes is no surprise to anyone with an ounce of intelligence. Intelligence and decency are not the same thing.Of course.QuoteDoes it outrage you Fermion?Of course. I just don't join with those who are selectively outraged for reasons of hate.QuoteLike Israel does?Of course.
 
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September 14th, 2010, 4:31 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: brontosaurusQuoteOriginally posted by: FermionQuoteOriginally posted by: HamiltonWomen's rights violations happen all over the world. Whether it is stoning, honor killings, domestic violence, or many other atrocities toward women, we need your help. By registering your name and email address, you can be a part of our e-petition that will be sent to the United Nations general secretary and the United States' secretary of state. Lending your name will make a difference.If you would like to get involved, there are a number of organizations supporting the film who are working on issues related to women? and human rights. Contact them today.Human Rights WatchCareful, you'll upset bronto.What is quite sad, upsetting, and I guess on a psychological level interesting is to see you so hell bent on proving a point, lose your common sense.At least I have some to lose.
 
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September 14th, 2010, 9:21 pm

QuoteThe fact that many people still living in medieval conditions use medieval methods of punishmentCould you please explain what is medieval about the living conditions in Iran and when medieval Christians or Jews stoned women to death for accusationsof adultery under Islamic Law? I've read Harold Berman and can'tseem to locate those instances.
 
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September 14th, 2010, 9:23 pm

QuoteThe story of Soraya M was the way that a religious dogmatic culture can be used for such ends.No. It was the way that Islamic Sharia Law countenances behaviour deemed barbaric in the West,yet the West refuses to say anything about it, hence the reason that movie was made.
 
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September 14th, 2010, 9:36 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: Fermionmob violence can be incited for personal reasons -- or political reasons as Tea Party folk like to threaten.Yeah, we're coming for you fella. I'm looking for that cheezy mid-century teardown with the rose bushes and hot tub.
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