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Posted: August 2nd, 2011, 4:46 pm
by Errrb
QuoteOriginally posted by: outrun QuoteOriginally posted by: ErrrbQuoteOriginally posted by: PowerpuffLOL right back at you. You think Europeans should worry about terrorist attacks from Muslims? I am European and I strongly disagree. You should not worry about anything, honey. You can laugh as much as you want before you are forced to wear muslim headscarf in public and give back your driving license.You need to get a little lobotomy, get rid of the fear neuronies that spoil your quality of lifeI don't have any fear about what will happen in Europe, simply because I don't give a fuck. I'm here just taking my place as a spectator of a bloody show which is about to start soon. The outcome is predictable but still it will be fun to watch for underdogs who will put a good fight.

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Posted: August 2nd, 2011, 5:22 pm
by Marsden
QuoteOriginally posted by: ErrrbIncomplete List of Islamic Terrorist Attacks, 1968 - 2004June 5 - U.S. presidential candidate Robert Kennedy murdered by Palestinian Sirhan Sirhan, in Los Angeles, which causes further terrorist attacks, as Arab terrorist groups demanded his release.1969Feb. 18 - Boeing 707 attacked at Zurich, Switzerland, killing the pilot and 3 passengers.Aug. 29 - TWA 707 hijacked from Rome to Damascus, released with only wounded.tErrrd fucks up again.Robert Kennedy was assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan, a Christian.The 1969 hijackings were committed by the PFLP, founded by the Marxist George Habash, who was born and raised Christian.Fucking moron.

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Posted: August 2nd, 2011, 5:41 pm
by Errrb
I see one armed actuary mARSEdin is back.Anyway feel free to replace "islamist" in my list below by camelfuckers.

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Posted: August 2nd, 2011, 6:07 pm
by Marsden
No worries, tErrrd. Everyone already replaces the entirity of each of your posts with, "I am a brain-damaged, emotionally fucked up Israeli who hates the world for the problems that I and my country have brought on ourselves."

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Posted: August 2nd, 2011, 6:18 pm
by Errrb
mARSEdin, or as you call yourself "the most visible freak on any street with chopped fingers". I understand that ADD prevents you from staying focused on the thread topic, nevertheless, please, try. It might help you to avoid future accidents with remaining legs, hands and fingers.

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Posted: August 2nd, 2011, 6:26 pm
by Herd
had a quick look at the list and saw PLO, which was a secular organisation.In fact at that time the big thing was arab nationalism. It was fought by "the West", and one way we found in fighting it was to support islamists.Also, on that list some stuff can qualify as acts of resistance (sometimes the difference between "resistant" and "terrorrist" only depends which side you re on. e.g. nazis called "terrorists" what we call "resistants").And what about the list of the West's victims (in particular US and Israel). Because that list is much much longer.And what is worst, the people responsible for those murders were democratically elected, and sometimes reelected.Whereas most of those islamist terrorist stuff is just small groups that are not represent of the muslim population.Thinking of people in terms of elements of a group (race, religion, nation or other) is really the source of many evils.

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Posted: August 2nd, 2011, 6:38 pm
by Errrb
Bullshit again, mr. Herd. On the surface the PLO might represent itself as a secular organization. The largest political group within PLO is Fatah. "Fatah" is a reverse acronym of the Arabic, Harekat at-Tahrir al-Wataniyyeh al-Falastiniyyeh. The word "Fatah" means "conquest by means of jihad". See any connection with your "religion of peace"?

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Posted: August 3rd, 2011, 2:16 am
by Marsden
Christian Europe killed 6 million Jews over ... nothing.And scrotum-breath is wetting his pants over how bad Islamic Arabia is.Someone needs to put a down payment on a sense of proportion.

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Posted: August 3rd, 2011, 10:53 am
by zerdna
So disagreement was about whether there are two muslim terrorist acts or two thousand over last 10 years. I guess "the fact" has been proved that there is no islamic terrorism. Two reasons why not. First is that in the list of a thousands of terrorist acts of muslims there are some questionably attributed to non-muslim Arabs because they simply want to kill Jews and everyone who ever supported Israel in any fashion. Like say Bobby Kennedy. Clearly, as the second argument goes, until someone kills 6 million of Jews again, or better even 13 million like Hamas (a charitable muslim organization) openly declares as a goal in its charter, it's just too early to point to something smaller in scale as a bad behavior.All right, since everyone is in agreement that the number of civilian Jews killed so far is not up to a worrisome threshold of 6 million, what about the killing of civilian Russians, Indians, Indonesians, Americans, and the rest? Is it like maybe slightly worrisome?

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Posted: August 3rd, 2011, 4:40 pm
by Fermion
QuoteOriginally posted by: zerdnaSo disagreement was about whether there are two muslim terrorist acts or two thousand over last 10 years. I guess "the fact" has been proved that there is no islamic terrorism. Two reasons why not. First is that in the list of a thousands of terrorist acts of muslims there are some questionably attributed to non-muslim Arabs because they simply want to kill Jews and everyone who ever supported Israel in any fashion. Like say Bobby Kennedy. Clearly, as the second argument goes, until someone kills 6 million of Jews again, or better even 13 million like Hamas (a charitable muslim organization) openly declares as a goal in its charter, it's just too early to point to something smaller in scale as a bad behavior.All right, since everyone is in agreement that the number of civilian Jews killed so far is not up to a worrisome threshold of 6 million, what about the killing of civilian Russians, Indians, Indonesians, Americans, and the rest? Is it like maybe slightly worrisome?Was it just oversight that caused you to omit the even more worrisome numbers of civilian Palestinians, Lebanese or Iraqis?Sure, you could add in Libyans and Syrians too, but I am just curious as to how you managed to omit Palestinians, Lebanese or Iraqis since they form by far the greatest numbers in recent decades.

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Posted: August 5th, 2011, 9:23 am
by exneratunrisk
Powerpuff, I agree. But beyond that fact ...I am afraid that the number of countries is growing, where it becomes more likely that an innocent citizen is killed by a Rambo police men in an allergic reaction than a terrorist act.Therefore, I find the reaction of the Norwegian top politicians admirable - resist the tightening of laws.

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Posted: August 5th, 2011, 10:53 am
by Powerpuff
QuoteOriginally posted by: exneratunriskI am afraid that the number of countries is growing, where it becomes more likely that an innocent citizen is killed by a Rambo police men in an allergic reaction than a terrorist act.Therefore, I find the reaction of the Norwegian top politicians admirable - resist the tightening of laws.What (for me) gives this attack an additional element of horror is that a grown man targeted a camp full of teenagers, a camp for teenagers. So I fully agree, the Norwegian politicians' reactions are admirable. But it would not amount to much if it was only words from politicians; this mind-set seems to encompass the entire Norwegian population at the moment. It seems that most Norwegians think like me, that unfortunately there are some things you can never fully protect yourself from. And even those that experienced Utøya say the same - they refuse to let their attacker define our society. They respond to this tragedy by demanding more democracy, more humanity. More openness and more love.Maybe that could be Norway's thing? Refusal to live in fear?**

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Posted: August 5th, 2011, 11:25 am
by exneratunrisk
QuoteOriginally posted by: PowerpuffQuoteOriginally posted by: exneratunriskI am afraid that the number of countries is growing, where it becomes more likely that an innocent citizen is killed by a Rambo police men in an allergic reaction than a terrorist act.Therefore, I find the reaction of the Norwegian top politicians admirable - resist the tightening of laws.What (for me) gives this attack an additional element of horror is that a grown man targeted a camp full of teenagers, a camp for teenagers. So I fully agree, the Norwegian politicians' reactions are admirable. But it would not amount to much if it was only words from politicians; this mind-set seems to encompass the entire Norwegian population at the moment. It seems that most Norwegians think like me, that unfortunately there are some things you can never fully protect yourself from. And even those that experienced Utøya say the same - they refuse to let their attacker define our society. They respond to this tragedy by demanding more democracy, more humanity. More openness and more love.Maybe that could be Norway's thing? Refusal to live in fear?**Oh, yes!

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Posted: August 5th, 2011, 12:11 pm
by Traden4Alpha
QuoteOriginally posted by: PowerpuffQuoteOriginally posted by: exneratunriskI am afraid that the number of countries is growing, where it becomes more likely that an innocent citizen is killed by a Rambo police men in an allergic reaction than a terrorist act.Therefore, I find the reaction of the Norwegian top politicians admirable - resist the tightening of laws.What (for me) gives this attack an additional element of horror is that a grown man targeted a camp full of teenagers, a camp for teenagers. So I fully agree, the Norwegian politicians' reactions are admirable. But it would not amount to much if it was only words from politicians; this mind-set seems to encompass the entire Norwegian population at the moment. It seems that most Norwegians think like me, that unfortunately there are some things you can never fully protect yourself from. And even those that experienced Utøya say the same - they refuse to let their attacker define our society. They respond to this tragedy by demanding more democracy, more humanity. More openness and more love.Maybe that could be Norway's thing? Refusal to live in fear?**Excellent! The U.S. needs to follow Norway's lead on this issue.It's far too easy to slip into a fear-based mindset and do more ongoing self-inflicted economic damage than was ever produced by the initial terrorist act.