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August 2nd, 2011, 1:13 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: FermionQuoteOriginally posted by: zerdnaQuoteAnother reason that the U.S. can't win wars against stone age fighters is that these wars aren't military conflicts, but social conflicts. Planes, guns, tanks, and bombs do little to win the foreign public relations battle that underpins both local and global support for the enemy factions.Please, spare this stuff for crashmint and trackstar. If planes and tanks don't work, than drones and bribes do. These are not exactly mysteries -- a handful of Brits 9 times out of ten was able to win a war being outnumbered one to a million. Maybe the reason was they didn't have any bullcrap notions of how every social structure is equally unique and valuable as their own, no matter if it is a culture of stoning chicks for going out with a wrong dude. They just went about winning the wars being sure that they are the real deal, without declaring some pie in the sky goals, like democracy in Iraq, hearts and minds of Taliban, or new madrasahs in Kandahar to educate children in their unique and valuable culture that includes cutting heads of whoever changes his mind.Zerdna is obviously hankering back to the ruthless days of the 3rd Reich. Britain could never have conquered Europe like the Nazis did. In fact if it hadn't been for the equally ruthless sacrifice of a large segment of the population of the Soviet Union defending Stalingrad (no doubt in large part because it was named after Stalin) and the late intervention of the wealthy USA, they would have completed the job.He obviously wants the USA and Israel to emulate the Nazis in the Middle East and commit genocide of the unruly people who live there. He won't say that explicitly of course (though Errrb probably will), but it is implicit in every de-humanizing word he writes about about Muslims.Indeed! Those were the good old days when men were men and oppressed populations were oppressed populations.For better (or worse), we live in more transparent and multilateral times.
 
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August 2nd, 2011, 1:36 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: zerdnaWell, T -- you sound reasonable even when i disagree with you. Here i suspect that we are mostly in agreement about the substance, it's just some differences of expression. Track, you know -- only reason i pull your hair is to show i still like you, the same reason it was in the first grade.I know it. And then there is this enduring Cold War dynamic. I noticed it in grad school too - first time I had classmates from behind the Iron Curtain.Slavic men were much different from the various breeds of Euros. Wry, cynical, looking at the US with such strange blue eyes.The Wall hadn't even been down for ten years then and there was no Tea Party, but there was a Beer Lovers Party Партия любителей пива. Though considered a "frivolous" political party, they even made a bid for election into the State Duma.
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August 2nd, 2011, 11:44 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: zerdnaWell, T -- you sound reasonable even when i disagree with you. Here i suspect that we are mostly in agreement about the substance, it's just some differences of expression. Track, you know -- only reason i pull your hair is to show i still like you, the same reason it was in the first grade.Indeed! I suspect that the covariance between our beliefs is quite high once we do the proper transforms to a common verbal numeraire. After that we have only some residual disagreement.
 
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August 2nd, 2011, 1:03 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: trackstar...there was no Tea Party, but there was a Beer Lovers Party Партия любителей пива. Clearly they would not be happy about these recent news: Beer now considered as alcohol in Russia
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August 2nd, 2011, 1:12 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CrashedMintQuoteOriginally posted by: trackstar...there was no Tea Party, but there was a Beer Lovers Party Партия любителей пива. Clearly they would not be happy about these recent news: Beer now considered as alcohol in RussiaYes, it makes them hopping mad! They are so mad, they can barley speak.
 
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August 2nd, 2011, 1:13 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CrashedMintQuoteOriginally posted by: trackstar...there was no Tea Party, but there was a Beer Lovers Party Партия любителей пива. Clearly they would not be happy about these recent news: Beer now considered as alcohol in RussiaYes, it makes them hopping mad! They are so mad, they can barley speak.Da sind dann wohl Hopfen und Malz verloren.
 
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August 2nd, 2011, 2:24 pm

Barack Obama wanted to raise taxes and force what is left of US business offshore. The Tea Party prevented this and, because you love abortion, you are angry about it.
 
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August 2nd, 2011, 3:11 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: farmerBarack Obama wanted to raise taxes and force what is left of US business offshore. The Tea Party prevented this and, because you love abortion, you are angry about it.i think you need to get laid
 
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August 2nd, 2011, 3:29 pm

Tea Party proves clout, but at what cost? QuoteThe Tea Party members who swept into Congress in last year's elections by vowing to slash spending have transformed the Republican Party and raised deficit reduction to the top of Washington's political agenda.But by pushing the United States to the brink of a debt default and scuttling a more ambitious deal with bigger spending cuts because it included tax increases, they threatened to alienate some of the more moderate voters that Republicans will need to hold power in Congress and recapture the White House in 2012."There is a real risk that rigidity and a refusal to compromise will be seen as standing in the way of serious solutions to national problems, and that is the risk for Republicans," he said.A Pew Research Center poll released on Monday found the contentious debt negotiations had tarnished all of the major players, including President Barack Obama and Republican House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner.But Republicans in Congress and the Tea Party fared the worst, with 42 percent saying they had a worse impression of Republicans and 37 percent having a worse view of Tea Party members as a result of the prolonged fight over raising the debt limit.
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August 2nd, 2011, 7:36 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CrashedMintQuoteOriginally posted by: farmerBarack Obama wanted to raise taxes and force what is left of US business offshore. The Tea Party prevented this and, because you love abortion, you are angry about it.i think you need to get laidIndeed! Given that the Tea Party seems to be in favour of personal freedom, I would imagine that they support abortion, too.
 
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August 2nd, 2011, 7:46 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CrashedMintQuoteOriginally posted by: farmerBarack Obama wanted to raise taxes and force what is left of US business offshore. The Tea Party prevented this and, because you love abortion, you are angry about it.i think you need to get laidIndeed! Given that the Tea Party seems to be in favour of personal freedom, I would imagine that they support abortion, too.i think the tea party is in favour of the freedom to do the right thing, unfortunately what is right or wrong is decided by them in a dogmatic fashion and not up for debate. Personally I am much in favour of any kind of freedom, even if I don't like it. And above all I am a staunch defender of the personal right to act in a stupid fashion. I think being stupid is a birthright.
 
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August 2nd, 2011, 7:53 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CrashedMintQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CrashedMintQuoteOriginally posted by: farmerBarack Obama wanted to raise taxes and force what is left of US business offshore. The Tea Party prevented this and, because you love abortion, you are angry about it.i think you need to get laidIndeed! Given that the Tea Party seems to be in favour of personal freedom, I would imagine that they support abortion, too.i think the tea party is in favour of the freedom to do the right thing, unfortunately what is right or wrong is decided by them in a dogmatic fashion and not up for debate. Personally I am much in favour of any kind of freedom, even if I don't like it. And above all I am a staunch defender of the personal right to act in a stupid fashion. I think being stupid is a birthright.Absolutely -- farmer exercises the right to be stupid every day.
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August 2nd, 2011, 8:03 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CrashedMinti think the tea party is in favour of the freedom to do the right thing, unfortunately what is right or wrong is decided by them in a dogmatic fashion and not up for debate. Personally I am much in favour of any kind of freedom, even if I don't like it. And above all I am a staunch defender of the personal right to act in a stupid fashion. I think being stupid is a birthright.Why don't you post some pictures of your favorite freedom abortion. Trackstar shows pics of her favorite things - horses, cakes, etc. - but you will never show a picture of this thing you claim is so great.
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