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February 13th, 2012, 5:35 pm

As a non- Cat owner, perhaps I am missing something, but can someone please explain the difference for me.In the UK a bunch of "toffs and in-bred country folk" used to ride around on horses and released domesticated animals to rip the local wildlife to shreds. This was barbaric and rightly (or wrongly), it was banned. Nobody blammed the dogs, it was in their nature. It was the owners responsibility of course.And yet we have millions of cat owners who every night let their domesticated pride and joy out into the local wildlife where it hunts and kills, not for food, but pleasure. And yet nobody seems that bothered.For the last few weeks, I have a friend who has posted facebook updates, complaining about the disgusting presents her cat brings back in various states of health, consciousness and even in several pieces. Clearly any attempt I make at asking her to control her pet will be met with a response of "Oh it's in her nature", and probably "Colar bells are cruel/ don't work" or "It would be cruel to keep her inside at night". etc etcAm I missing something here? How can a cat owner describe themselves as an animal lover when they've essentially purchased a pet that will destroy a not insignificant portion of the surrounding wildlife? Sometimes it kills pests, but also birds, voles and basically anything else it comes across in it's nightly adventures.I know we have lots of cat owners here and I'd be interested if they've ever had this problem and how they managed it, (or how they would). I don't mean to sound judgemental (although I know I probably do), it's more that I don't understand and as I've never owned a cat (or dog) need a different perspective.
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February 13th, 2012, 5:47 pm

Very pomo thread, I like it. Also, cats out at night often don't come back because they get run over by cars.
 
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February 13th, 2012, 5:56 pm

We have 7 cats, 3 in the house, 1 for the back door, 1 for the front and 2 for reconnoitering at night. We get the odd headless mouse as a token of respect. Sometimes a little sparrow with a similar fate.And we buried Boris in the garden.Around 21.00 the little aggressive hedgehogs arrive for dinner Safe feeling. BTW I hate "fox lamping"
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February 13th, 2012, 6:07 pm

Step over the gap, not into it. Watch the space between platform and train.
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February 13th, 2012, 6:32 pm

It's just a modelWe have a luik in the door (window). hi tech version QuoteAnd why do you have wooden panels on the floor outside your house? Irish builder
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February 13th, 2012, 6:57 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnWe have 7 catsthere are laws in many comunities here limiting the number of cats in a dwelling, to stop cat ladies like yourself
 
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February 13th, 2012, 8:19 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnIn Japan, some hedgehog breeds are very different
 
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February 13th, 2012, 8:47 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnIt's just a modelWe have a luik in the door (window). hi tech versionCan't you cover the hole with a pompeblêden and train the cat to use a fierljeppen to leap through the hole?
 
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February 13th, 2012, 8:54 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnIt's just a modelWe have a luik in the door (window). hi tech versionCan't you cover the hole with a pompeblêden and train the cat to use a fierljeppen to leap through the hole?good idea! Let's get outrun to show them.
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February 13th, 2012, 9:01 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnIt's just a modelWe have a luik in the door (window). hi tech versionCan't you cover the hole with a pompeblêden and train the cat to use a fierljeppen to leap through the hole?good idea! Let's get outrun to show them.Good idea! We'd hate to see your cats do this:
 
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February 13th, 2012, 9:06 pm

A few words on cats:I have had anywhere from 2 - 4 cats for many years.I do not think that collars and bells are cruel at all, as long as the collars are fitted properly and of the "quick release" variety. All of my cats have worn them, since they were kittens, with name tags and phone numbers too, which were always replaced when the collars got lost.I have experimented with different kinds of bells though and nothing works. The prey animals just do not respond to them as an alarm.On night time - all my cats come in at night, not so much for traffic reasons - it is very quiet here that way, but there are Fisher Cats (a large member of weasel family) and coyotes around here.Many cats and even small dogs go missing regularly - there are signs in the post office, on telephone poles, and in local cafes asking "Have you seen my cat?" with pictures. Sad.But even when they are only let out in the day time, they do hunt.When I can rescue something from one of the cats, I do, and have released mice, voles, chipmunks and birds, when they have recovered from a capture. I have some small cages for this purpose.No telling which have survived once they are released though.So only solution is to keep the cats indoors.Not so bad if you do this from the time they are kittens and never let them see the great outdoors.Otherwise, good luck to you, because they will want to go out and explore, badly.
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February 13th, 2012, 9:11 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnVery nice hedgehog portal!So what dimension does he enter on the other side?
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