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December 20th, 2018, 10:17 pm


Once commenced, the Act will:
Introduce a total ban on dealing in items containing elephant ivory, regardless of their age, within the UK, as well as export from or import to the UK.
Create narrow and carefully defined set of exemptions.
Establish a new compliance system to allow owners to continue to trade in exempt items
Introduce tough new penalties for those found guilty of breaching the ban, including fines and possible imprisonment.
how can it be a "total ban" if there are "exemptions" and "exempt items"?
 
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December 20th, 2018, 11:14 pm

It is of course not a total ban, but pretty darn close.

Create narrow and carefully defined exemptions to the ban for:

Items with only a small amount of ivory. Such items must be comprised of less than 10% ivory by volume and have been made prior to 1947

Musical instruments. These must have an ivory content of less than 20% and have been made prior to 1975

Portrait miniatures. A specific exemption for portrait miniatures – which were often painted on thin slivers of ivory – made before 1918

Sales to and between accredited museums. This applies museums accredited by Arts Council England, the Welsh Government, The Scottish Government or the Northern Ireland Museums Council in the UK, or, for museums outside the UK, The International Council of Museums

The rarest and most important items of their type. Items of outstanding artistic, cultural or historic significance, and made prior to 1918. Such items will be subject to the advice of specialists at institutions such as the UK’s most prestigious museums
 
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December 21st, 2018, 6:59 am

What’s stopping the EU doing something similar?
 
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December 21st, 2018, 12:02 pm

The EU is the largest market for the ivory trade. There's a strong lobby of "antique" traders, where they consciously sell a lot of fresh, illegally poached tusks. Not to mention the complex (but not that hard to image) ways in which it disrupt the order in African countries and makes ways for other Western criminals to profit from. It's not only about protecting elephants - it's political.
 
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February 12th, 2019, 11:29 am

They even named one of their top officials after a part of a dead elephant... what's more to say?

The social life of food on your plate
 
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February 12th, 2019, 2:22 pm

They even named one of their top officials after a part of a dead elephant... what's more to say?

The social life of food on your plate
I found that article quite educational. Thanks for posting! Admittedly I mentally misparsed the website name, frontiersin.org, and was a little confused for a paragraph or two.
 
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March 27th, 2019, 4:07 am

Mirror test


As you may have already known, ye old Gallup test was developed by primitive people who believed that the reflection in the mirror is a trapped soul. That's why animals who (which?) don't have a soul cannot recognise themselves in the mirror. They can't have self-awareness. Several decades later a group of neuroscientists proposed a revolutionary hypothesis: that the mirror test actually measures if an animal recognises him- or her- (it-?) self in the mirror. In this paper they used fMRI to nicely show that "thinking of oneself" and "looking at oneself" activate different brain regions: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12167262
In other words, recognising oneself in the mirror is something else than thinking about oneself. Thank you, Science!
PS, the child in the video is probably delayed.
 
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April 14th, 2019, 11:53 pm

I've just started reading a nice book; for everyone interested in animal cognition:
Mama’s Last Hug review: Entertaining insight into animal emotions
The Will to Power chapter is fascinating and funny, “when Sean Spicer… was discovered hiding in the bushes to dodge questions from reporters, I knew Washington politics had become truly primatological”. The pages on Donald Trump are hilarious yet the ultimate message is hopeful, cogently arguing that humans are not doomed to warfare, “the primate alpha male is a much more complex and responsible being than a bully”.
There's already no doubt that non-human animals are intelligent and have emotions - anthropocentrism has been pushed to the line of doubt in whether they have feelings :-)
 
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April 15th, 2019, 12:54 am

Does that include the orangutan?
 
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April 15th, 2019, 9:28 am

Orangutans have sex for food.
Bonobo have reconciliatory sex. Chimps rape and torture. Very human.
 
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April 15th, 2019, 11:29 am

It seems that only humans are known for doing things just to deserve someone's love. A human who is like that must look like a jaw-dropping idiot to all those calculating monkeys :-)
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