QuoteOriginally posted by: CrashedMintHere's the thing: If there were two candidates and you suspect that one genuinely respects you, and the other one tries really hard for strategic reasons to appear to like you simply because he has to, and it's hard, but hey there are many of you and maybe you're not that useless and bad and god how have we lost our way let's just whatever --- who would you vote for?The GOP cannot be the party who now panders to latinos because they feel they have to in order to win. Instead they need to be the party that actually does things that latinos like.The Republicans are not the party of welfare. If latinos like welfare, but Republicans see latinos as not being on welfare, that is not disrespect. The Republicans present a vision of latinos as ordinary and successful Americans, like Susana Martinez and Marco Rubio. It was not the Republicans' idea to classify people with southern European ancestry as a disadvantaged minority demographic. It is the Democrats who thought hey, we can take these normal people, and turn them into dependent welfare pets. It was the Democrats idea to think we should respect people who have broken US laws, in exchange for them voting for us. Unbelievably, the Democrats have been the party of criminals in general over the last 50 years. Given that this hurts the rest of Americans, the Republicans just won't do it.There is a large percentage of Americans who will NEVER respect ANYONE on welfare, not even if you manage to find 100 million other people who look similar to them. It is just an insane thing you have proposed, that you have to respect people on welfare to win elections. Do you understand that making promises that cannot be kept in a bankrupt nation, to get elected, is not really respect?I guess you are redefining respect, as making untenable promises to anyone capable of finding his way into a voting booth. Do the Democrats genuinely like latinos? Yes, they genuinely like votes. Do they "respect" latinos? Of course not. Do they respect the desire of latinos to get free stuff? No, but they like it. Because they can promise it, even if the promises must ultimately prove empty, and even if the conditions of the people who receive the promises worsen in the arrangement.If somebody is an illegal alien from Mexico, it is not a genetic thing. There is nothing anyone in US can do to make life great for criminals in a third-world country. Reality matters. You cannot equalize outcomes for people who are disadvantaged by reality. Their circumstances are not caused by people in the US. If there were 100 million convicted murderers, would you recommend Republicans genuinely respect them, instead of pandering to them?Please answer this: Would you consider it a smart policy to grant every Mexican US citizenship, and then allow Mexican politicians to run for office in the US? It would certainly win a lot of elections. Would you vote for a smart politician who did this?
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