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November 7th, 2012, 11:39 am

CBS News: results to dateQuoteComplete Presidential BallotCandidate Party Vote% VotesBarack Obama* D 50% 59,399,284Mitt Romney R 48% 56,849,647Gary Johnson I 1% 1,140,315Jill Stein I 0% 396,815Virgil Goode I 0% 111,814Roseanne Barr PF 0% 47,691Rocky Anderson JP 0% 34,453Tom Hoefling AI 0% 27,274Randall Terry I 0% 12,895Richard Duncan UN 0% 12,032Peta Lindsay SX 0% 6,989None Of These Candidates ND 0% 5,753Tom Stevens OB 0% 3,996Stewart Alexander SO 0% 3,897James Harris SW 0% 3,422Will Christensen CS 0% 3,382Jim Carlson G 0% 3,157Merlin Miller AT 0% 2,596Sheila Tittle WP 0% 2,464Jill Reed UN 0% 2,309Gloria La Riva SX 0% 1,511Jerry Litzel I 0% 1,196Jerry White SE 0% 1,118Dean Morstad CN 0% 1,101Jeff Boss I 0% 885Jack Fellure PR 0% 503Party NamesParty Abr Full NameAC A Connecticut PartyAF American First CoalitionAH American Heritage PartyAI American Independent PtyAK Alaskan IndependenceAN American ConstitutionAM AmericanBD Builders PartyBT Boston TeaB Better SchoolsBR Buchanan ReformCC Concerned CitizensCE Centrist PartyCF Citizens FirstCM Cool MooseCN ConstitutionalCP Concerns of PeopleC ConservativeCS ConstitutionCL CT for LiebermanDC DC Statehood Green PartyD DemocratE End Suffolk LegislatureFA FairFE Free Energy PartyF Fusion IndependentFR FreedomFr Friends UnitedFB Farmers & Small BusinessFS Freedom SocialistFV Family Values PartyGC Green Coalition PartyGN Greens No To WarGR GreenG Grass Roots PartyHC Healthcare PartyHP Home ProtectionHQ Heartquake '08IA Independent AmericanIF Independent FusionIL Independent GrassrootsI IndependentIN IndependenceIT Integrity PartyIP Independent PartyIR Independent-ProgressiveIC Ind. Save Our ChildrenL LiberalLO Looking Back PartyLA Labor and FarmLB LibertarianLF Long Island FirstLM Legalize MarijuanaLU Liberty UnionLP Liberty Union/ProgressivMJ Marijuana PartyMM Make Marijuana LegalMN Mountain PartyMO Moderate PartyMR Marijuana Reform PartyNA New AllianceNE NebraskaNH No Home Heat TaxNL Natural Law PartyNT No New TaxesNO NoNP Non-PartisanND No Party DesignationOB ObjectivistOE One EarthOP OpenOT 128 DistrictAO OtherPC PacificPN Pacific GreenPP Patriot PartyPA PacifistPH Personal ChoicePE Petitioning CandidateP Party of Ethics & TraditPF Peace and FreedomPJ Peace and JusticePL Pro Life ConservativePO PopulistPG ProgressivePR ProhibitionPS Preserve Our TownPT Property Tax CutPV People of VermontPW Protect Working FamiliesR RepublicanRS Resource PartyRC Randolph for CongressRJ Restore Justice-FreedomRM Reform MinnesotaRF Reform PartyRD Republican ModerateRL Right to LifeSC School ChoiceSL SocialismSS Save SeniorsSE Socialist EqualityS Save MedicareSO SocialistSU Socialist USAST Star Tax CutSF Student FirstSW Socialist Workers PartyBL The Better LifeT Tax CutTC Tax Cut NowTE Tea PartyTG The GoTL Term LimitsTS TimesizingUC United CitizenUN UnaffiliatedU UnenrolledUD UnitedTX U.S. Taxpayers PartyUY UnityVT Veterans PartyGS Vermont GrassrootsV Voice of the PeopleVP Voters Rights PartyWC Working Class PartyWF Working FamiliesWN West Side NeighborsWP We the PeopleWV Workers for VermontWW Workers WorldYS YesFermion's guy Rocky Anderson came 7th behind Roseanne
 
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November 7th, 2012, 12:34 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperCBS News: results to dateQuoteComplete Presidential BallotCandidate Party Vote% VotesBarack Obama* D 50% 59,399,284Mitt Romney R 48% 56,849,647Gary Johnson I 1% 1,140,315Jill Stein I 0% 396,815Virgil Goode I 0% 111,814Roseanne Barr PF 0% 47,691Rocky Anderson JP 0% 34,453Tom Hoefling AI 0% 27,274Randall Terry I 0% 12,895Richard Duncan UN 0% 12,032Peta Lindsay SX 0% 6,989None Of These Candidates ND 0% 5,753Tom Stevens OB 0% 3,996Stewart Alexander SO 0% 3,897James Harris SW 0% 3,422Will Christensen CS 0% 3,382Jim Carlson G 0% 3,157Merlin Miller AT 0% 2,596Sheila Tittle WP 0% 2,464Jill Reed UN 0% 2,309Gloria La Riva SX 0% 1,511Jerry Litzel I 0% 1,196Jerry White SE 0% 1,118Dean Morstad CN 0% 1,101Jeff Boss I 0% 885Jack Fellure PR 0% 503Party NamesParty Abr Full NameAC A Connecticut PartyAF American First CoalitionAH American Heritage PartyAI American Independent PtyAK Alaskan IndependenceAN American ConstitutionAM AmericanBD Builders PartyBT Boston TeaB Better SchoolsBR Buchanan ReformCC Concerned CitizensCE Centrist PartyCF Citizens FirstCM Cool MooseCN ConstitutionalCP Concerns of PeopleC ConservativeCS ConstitutionCL CT for LiebermanDC DC Statehood Green PartyD DemocratE End Suffolk LegislatureFA FairFE Free Energy PartyF Fusion IndependentFR FreedomFr Friends UnitedFB Farmers & Small BusinessFS Freedom SocialistFV Family Values PartyGC Green Coalition PartyGN Greens No To WarGR GreenG Grass Roots PartyHC Healthcare PartyHP Home ProtectionHQ Heartquake '08IA Independent AmericanIF Independent FusionIL Independent GrassrootsI IndependentIN IndependenceIT Integrity PartyIP Independent PartyIR Independent-ProgressiveIC Ind. Save Our ChildrenL LiberalLO Looking Back PartyLA Labor and FarmLB LibertarianLF Long Island FirstLM Legalize MarijuanaLU Liberty UnionLP Liberty Union/ProgressivMJ Marijuana PartyMM Make Marijuana LegalMN Mountain PartyMO Moderate PartyMR Marijuana Reform PartyNA New AllianceNE NebraskaNH No Home Heat TaxNL Natural Law PartyNT No New TaxesNO NoNP Non-PartisanND No Party DesignationOB ObjectivistOE One EarthOP OpenOT 128 DistrictAO OtherPC PacificPN Pacific GreenPP Patriot PartyPA PacifistPH Personal ChoicePE Petitioning CandidateP Party of Ethics & TraditPF Peace and FreedomPJ Peace and JusticePL Pro Life ConservativePO PopulistPG ProgressivePR ProhibitionPS Preserve Our TownPT Property Tax CutPV People of VermontPW Protect Working FamiliesR RepublicanRS Resource PartyRC Randolph for CongressRJ Restore Justice-FreedomRM Reform MinnesotaRF Reform PartyRD Republican ModerateRL Right to LifeSC School ChoiceSL SocialismSS Save SeniorsSE Socialist EqualityS Save MedicareSO SocialistSU Socialist USAST Star Tax CutSF Student FirstSW Socialist Workers PartyBL The Better LifeT Tax CutTC Tax Cut NowTE Tea PartyTG The GoTL Term LimitsTS TimesizingUC United CitizenUN UnaffiliatedU UnenrolledUD UnitedTX U.S. Taxpayers PartyUY UnityVT Veterans PartyGS Vermont GrassrootsV Voice of the PeopleVP Voters Rights PartyWC Working Class PartyWF Working FamiliesWN West Side NeighborsWP We the PeopleWV Workers for VermontWW Workers WorldYS YesIt would be interesting to see a round robin debate between all of these candidates. Strict time limits though.
 
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November 7th, 2012, 12:35 pm

And I can't resist showing you this:QuoteOriginally posted by: trackstarThe threads on the US Presidential race have proliferated widely here, but this is the one where you can bet real money on real candidates.The big day is Tuesday.I'll offer Obama 51% to Romney 49% (you can allocate any independent votes equally between them)QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperCBS News: results to dateComplete Presidential BallotCandidate Party Vote% VotesBarack Obama* D - 50% - 59,399,284Mitt Romney R - 48% - 56,849,647Gary Johnson I - 1% - 1,140,315
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November 7th, 2012, 1:51 pm

Oh well
 
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November 7th, 2012, 2:45 pm

last time (2008) Obama 69,456,897 McCain 59,934,814 so Romney got fewer votes than McCain (and if he had got all of the McCain voters he would have won ?)QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperCBS News: results to dateQuoteComplete Presidential BallotCandidate Party Vote% VotesBarack Obama* D 50% 59,399,284Mitt Romney R 48% 56,849,647Gary Johnson I 1% 1,140,315Jill Stein I 0% 396,815Virgil Goode I 0% 111,814Roseanne Barr PF 0% 47,691Rocky Anderson JP 0% 34,453Tom Hoefling AI 0% 27,274Randall Terry I 0% 12,895Richard Duncan UN 0% 12,032Peta Lindsay SX 0% 6,989None Of These Candidates ND 0% 5,753Tom Stevens OB 0% 3,996Stewart Alexander SO 0% 3,897James Harris SW 0% 3,422Will Christensen CS 0% 3,382Jim Carlson G 0% 3,157Merlin Miller AT 0% 2,596Sheila Tittle WP 0% 2,464Jill Reed UN 0% 2,309Gloria La Riva SX 0% 1,511Jerry Litzel I 0% 1,196Jerry White SE 0% 1,118Dean Morstad CN 0% 1,101Jeff Boss I 0% 885Jack Fellure PR 0% 503Party NamesParty Abr Full NameAC A Connecticut PartyAF American First CoalitionAH American Heritage PartyAI American Independent PtyAK Alaskan IndependenceAN American ConstitutionAM AmericanBD Builders PartyBT Boston TeaB Better SchoolsBR Buchanan ReformCC Concerned CitizensCE Centrist PartyCF Citizens FirstCM Cool MooseCN ConstitutionalCP Concerns of PeopleC ConservativeCS ConstitutionCL CT for LiebermanDC DC Statehood Green PartyD DemocratE End Suffolk LegislatureFA FairFE Free Energy PartyF Fusion IndependentFR FreedomFr Friends UnitedFB Farmers & Small BusinessFS Freedom SocialistFV Family Values PartyGC Green Coalition PartyGN Greens No To WarGR GreenG Grass Roots PartyHC Healthcare PartyHP Home ProtectionHQ Heartquake '08IA Independent AmericanIF Independent FusionIL Independent GrassrootsI IndependentIN IndependenceIT Integrity PartyIP Independent PartyIR Independent-ProgressiveIC Ind. Save Our ChildrenL LiberalLO Looking Back PartyLA Labor and FarmLB LibertarianLF Long Island FirstLM Legalize MarijuanaLU Liberty UnionLP Liberty Union/ProgressivMJ Marijuana PartyMM Make Marijuana LegalMN Mountain PartyMO Moderate PartyMR Marijuana Reform PartyNA New AllianceNE NebraskaNH No Home Heat TaxNL Natural Law PartyNT No New TaxesNO NoNP Non-PartisanND No Party DesignationOB ObjectivistOE One EarthOP OpenOT 128 DistrictAO OtherPC PacificPN Pacific GreenPP Patriot PartyPA PacifistPH Personal ChoicePE Petitioning CandidateP Party of Ethics & TraditPF Peace and FreedomPJ Peace and JusticePL Pro Life ConservativePO PopulistPG ProgressivePR ProhibitionPS Preserve Our TownPT Property Tax CutPV People of VermontPW Protect Working FamiliesR RepublicanRS Resource PartyRC Randolph for CongressRJ Restore Justice-FreedomRM Reform MinnesotaRF Reform PartyRD Republican ModerateRL Right to LifeSC School ChoiceSL SocialismSS Save SeniorsSE Socialist EqualityS Save MedicareSO SocialistSU Socialist USAST Star Tax CutSF Student FirstSW Socialist Workers PartyBL The Better LifeT Tax CutTC Tax Cut NowTE Tea PartyTG The GoTL Term LimitsTS TimesizingUC United CitizenUN UnaffiliatedU UnenrolledUD UnitedTX U.S. Taxpayers PartyUY UnityVT Veterans PartyGS Vermont GrassrootsV Voice of the PeopleVP Voters Rights PartyWC Working Class PartyWF Working FamiliesWN West Side NeighborsWP We the PeopleWV Workers for VermontWW Workers WorldYS YesFermion's guy Rocky Anderson came 7th behind Roseanne
 
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November 7th, 2012, 5:01 pm

It woz the quants wot won it.....
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November 8th, 2012, 12:12 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: outrunTalking about money...the donations:Barack ObamaUniversity of California $1,092,906Microsoft Corp $761,343Google Inc $737,055US Government $627,628Harvard University $602,992Mitt RomneyGoldman Sachs $994,139Bank of America $921,839Morgan Stanley $827,255JPMorgan Chase & Co $792,147Credit Suisse Group $618,941That's the tip of the ice-berg. The most interesting fact about campaign funds was that it was nearly all spent on exaggeration and distortion or, in the case of Romney's campaign, outright brazen lies. And the net result was that comparable funding on each side (though the source was different) cancelled out the deceitful effect of the other's. Though the most outrageous lies apparently had the weakest effect, suggesting that Goebbels's maxim only works when the other side can't be heard. What does that tell you about money in politics -- apart from the fact that the GOP will now have to double its funding if it ever wants to win again?
 
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November 9th, 2012, 5:02 pm

this map was on drudge
 
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November 9th, 2012, 5:20 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperthis map was on drudgeUrban dwellers are Democrats and rural folk are Republicans. Given the demographic trends, Republicans don't have a future unless they dump their rural past.
 
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November 9th, 2012, 6:03 pm

QuoteUrban dwellers are Democrats and rural folk are Republicans. Given the demographic trends, Republicans don't have a future unless they dump their rural past.The difference in demographic trends is not by population density, it's in different dimension. Given demographic trends, US will be Mexico and Europe North Africa/Pakistan in 100 years. Anybody who has to extrapolate often knows, however, how tough is to control this line beyond right point in the graph. Map of democrats is like a map of epidemic of bubonic plaque from sci fi movie -- it correlates with population density. This density has been also a key for sharing expertise, knowledge, and engaging in trade. It might be not so much in the future. Give democrats 25 years in the office and half of the cities could turn into war zones like Detroit -- 50% illiteracy rate, half of the streets with no lights, rampant crime, and officials busily taking bribes, dividing ever decreasing pie between insiders, and screwing subordinates on the office tables. There could be issues with population density. Oh, yeah, by the way -- the future of these whitey democrats might not be too far from those abhorrent whitey republicans. Here is a city Council of Detroit, model of urban democratic American future, in case it indeed goes according to linear extrapolation. Find Traden4Alpha in the picture
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November 9th, 2012, 7:04 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperthis map was on drudgeUrban dwellers are Democrats and rural folk are Republicans. Given the demographic trends, Republicans don't have a future unless they dump their rural past.I think that's a bit simplified. e.g. take Huntsville, Alabama.
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November 9th, 2012, 7:13 pm

Republicans consider welcoming people who believe in maths (or math) and science
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November 9th, 2012, 7:18 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: daveangelRepublicans consider welcoming people who believe in maths (or math) and science"We need to welcome people who believe in different things than we do, like math and science.? This is an endangered species in the West, so they will need to act fast. Lots in the East.
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November 9th, 2012, 7:18 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: zerdnaQuoteUrban dwellers are Democrats and rural folk are Republicans. Given the demographic trends, Republicans don't have a future unless they dump their rural past.The difference in demographic trends is not by population density, it's in different dimension. Given demographic trends, US will be Mexico and Europe North Africa/Pakistan in 100 years. Anybody who has to extrapolate often knows, however, how tough is to control this line beyond right point in the graph. Map of democrats is like a map of epidemic of bubonic plaque from sci fi movie -- it correlates with population density. This density has been also a key for sharing expertise, knowledge, and engaging in trade. It might be not so much in the future. Give democrats 25 years in the office and half of the cities could turn into war zones like Detroit -- 50% illiteracy rate, half of the streets with no lights, rampant crime, and officials busily taking bribes, dividing ever decreasing pie between insiders, and screwing subordinates on the office tables. There could be issues with population density. Oh, yeah, by the way -- the future of these whitey democrats might not be too far from those abhorrent whitey republicans. Here is a city Council of Detroit, model of urban democratic American future, in case it indeed goes according to linear extrapolation. Find Traden4Alpha in the pictureWhat's the matter with you dude?
 
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November 9th, 2012, 7:21 pm

"it was time for Republicans to become ?more tolerant of those with a math-and-science lifestyle.?"
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