SERVING THE QUANTITATIVE FINANCE COMMUNITY

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • 12
 
User avatar
zerdna
Topic Author
Posts: 3856
Joined: July 14th, 2002, 3:00 am

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 9th, 2012, 11:13 pm

I am tired with all these people who can't find their ass with two hands but keep telling everyone that they know what went wrong for republicans. Republicans needed to love Hispanic more, if only they didn't say 'women in binders', or said '47%' , or they should have shot some old creeps from the woods near north pole that barked about rape being sent from God, etc. If only Romney showed his taxes. All of them have zero proof, naturally. I kept looking for the answer to the question why so fewer Republicans turned out for Romney and against Obama in 2012 than for McCain in 2008, in spite of much more resources thrown at campaign and much more disappointment in Obama among general population, even democrat. At least part of the answer appears in ginormous failure that get out vote was. All of it hinged on some software that crashed spectacularly, along with all human support around it. As a result, the whole army of republican volunteers that normally does GOTV did nothing -- Romney flushed his Imperial Guard down the toilet. Here is a pretty fascinating account of one volunteer. ORCA
 
User avatar
Traden4Alpha
Posts: 23951
Joined: September 20th, 2002, 8:30 pm

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 10th, 2012, 4:34 pm

The failure of GOTV might have cost Romney some votes, but not enough to make a difference. I got GOTV calls from both sides on Tues, so the Romney machine wasn't totally down. And on a relative basis, Romney's drop in turnout was not as bad as Obama's drop in turnout.Romney lost for millions of reasons -- the alienation of millions in some groups, the inability to excite millions of others, fear of the unknown for some millions.
 
User avatar
Fermion
Posts: 4486
Joined: November 14th, 2002, 8:50 pm

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 10th, 2012, 5:58 pm

Maybe it was his/GOP policies. Or maybe it was because Democrats spent their money wisely demonstrating that Romney was a job-destroying vulture capitalist (the truest words ever spoken by a Republican) intent on helping the rich get richer by financial rape of the working class, surrounded by people who fantasized about raping women all day. Whereas the Republicans wasted even more money failing to prove a lie -- that Obama was an un-American nazi-communist-muslim who wanted to turn the USA into a third world Islamic country and kill babies. Is Sheldon Adelson going to ask Rove for his money back?Just a thought....
Last edited by Fermion on November 9th, 2012, 11:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
 
User avatar
farmer
Posts: 13477
Joined: December 16th, 2002, 7:09 am

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 10th, 2012, 9:24 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: FermionRepublicans wasted even more money failing to prove a lie -- that Obama was an un-American nazi-communist-muslim who wanted to turn the USA into a third world Islamic country and kill babies.Actually, it is because that is true that Obama won. Billions of people around the world choose to live in third-world countries. And human nature is no different around here. So now the US can be like 100 countries that Fermion would never choose to live in.
 
User avatar
Fermion
Posts: 4486
Joined: November 14th, 2002, 8:50 pm

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 10th, 2012, 10:12 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: farmerQuoteOriginally posted by: FermionRepublicans wasted even more money failing to prove a lie -- that Obama was an un-American nazi-communist-muslim who wanted to turn the USA into a third world Islamic country and kill babies.Actually, it is because that is true that Obama won. Billions of people around the world choose to live in third-world countries. And human nature is no different around here. So now the US can be like 100 countries that Fermion would never choose to live in.I'll look forward to you losing when you try that line again next time.
 
User avatar
farmer
Posts: 13477
Joined: December 16th, 2002, 7:09 am

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 10th, 2012, 10:17 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: FermionI'll look forward to you losing when you try that line again next time.Bill Clinton won, Carter, Pelosi, Reid, Obama once. It looks to me that through all that you never have anything to look forward to, and you will die a miserable bitter loser.That is the nice thing about these lefties. The citizens just get more miserable. If you are able, maybe next time you will be marching in the streets for bread before my side loses.
 
User avatar
Fermion
Posts: 4486
Joined: November 14th, 2002, 8:50 pm

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 10th, 2012, 10:34 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: farmerQuoteOriginally posted by: FermionI'll look forward to you losing when you try that line again next time.Bill Clinton won, Carter, Pelosi, Reid, Obama once. It looks to me that through all that you never have anything to look forward to, and you will die a miserable bitter loser.That is the nice thing about these lefties. The citizens just get more miserable. If you are able, maybe next time you will be marching in the streets for bread before my side loses.LMAO! If you squirm any more you'll rupture a disc.
 
User avatar
farmer
Posts: 13477
Joined: December 16th, 2002, 7:09 am

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 10th, 2012, 10:35 pm

You're a nice case-study Fermion. I know your sales tax is up as a consequence of this election. I know that your ambition is to trade US stock options. And US stock trading volume will be down as a consequence of this election. And if you were to make some money, your taxes will be up as a consequence of this election. Medical device makers are laying people off, and leaving the country because Obamacare. You are more likely to need a medical device sometime soon than me. It is a traffic jam on 101 to escape from where you live in any direction, and gas prices are up and will continue to be, as a consequence of Obama's anti-carbon inititiatives. So you will be paying for that.Meanwhile, I have a hand in a misery business. And I have already collected a couple dollars as a consequence of Obama winning. So I need to head out to the drug store and get some tooth whitener. Because a lot of people are seeing my teeth with this smile I am wearing.
 
User avatar
katastrofa
Posts: 9436
Joined: August 16th, 2007, 5:36 am
Location: Alpha Centauri

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 10th, 2012, 10:46 pm

Another account of how GOP can't do tech: Orca failRomney evidently didn't harbour much love for his campaign staff anyway: Staffers' campaign credit cards cancelled in the middle of the nightOn the other hand, Obama hired the real pros: Quants did data mining for ObamaScience beats superstition and entitlement, every time.
 
User avatar
katastrofa
Posts: 9436
Joined: August 16th, 2007, 5:36 am
Location: Alpha Centauri

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 10th, 2012, 10:47 pm

So if you're looking for an answer "why Romney lost", Zerdna, here it is in it's simplicity: because he's an arrogant dick.
 
User avatar
farmer
Posts: 13477
Joined: December 16th, 2002, 7:09 am

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 10th, 2012, 11:25 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaSo if you're looking for an answer "why Romney lost", Zerdna, here it is in it's simplicity: because he's an arrogant dick.Romney didn't make you ugly. God made you ugly.
 
User avatar
zerdna
Topic Author
Posts: 3856
Joined: July 14th, 2002, 3:00 am

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 11th, 2012, 12:00 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaSo if you're looking for an answer "why Romney lost", Zerdna, here it is in it's simplicity: because he's an arrogant dick.Romney clearly didn't know how to manage IT company and didn't get good help. There are other clear bad management errors in this story in my opinion -- either Romney is not that good, or something else happened that is not being told. Obama probably had some good guys -- Eric Schmidt has heavily supported Obama and google has some really strong machine learning guys. As far as Romney personality goes, you have problem seeing him straight. I suspect you never really looked -- you probably took someone's word for it. He is neither arrogant nor a dick.
 
User avatar
Fermion
Posts: 4486
Joined: November 14th, 2002, 8:50 pm

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 11th, 2012, 1:08 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: zerdnaQuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaSo if you're looking for an answer "why Romney lost", Zerdna, here it is in it's simplicity: because he's an arrogant dick.He is neither arrogant nor a dick.And we can always trust the opinion of an arrogant dick. Face it zerdnabot, your hilarious idea that Romneybot is a "decent guy" says much more about you and the bubble you live in than it does about him.
 
User avatar
Ultraviolet
Posts: 1655
Joined: August 15th, 2012, 9:46 am

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 11th, 2012, 1:10 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaScience beats superstition and entitlement, every time.Naïve but true :-)
 
User avatar
farmer
Posts: 13477
Joined: December 16th, 2002, 7:09 am

How Romney lost his Waterloo

November 11th, 2012, 8:55 am

QuoteOriginally posted by: UltravioletQuoteOriginally posted by: katastrofaScience beats superstition and entitlement, every time.Naïve but true :-)QuoteEVER since I have been scrutinizing political events, I have taken a tremendous interest in propagandist activity. I saw that the Socialist-Marxist organizations mastered and applied this instrument with astounding skill. And I soon realized that the correct use of propaganda is a true art which has remained practically unknown to the bourgeois parties. Only the Christian-Social movement, especially in Lueger's time, achieved a certain virtuosity on this instrument, to which it owed many of its successes.But it was not until the War that it became evident what immense results could be obtained by a correct application of propaganda. Here again, unfortunately, all our studying had to be done on the enemy side, for the activity on our side was modest, to say the least. The total miscarriage of the German 'enlightenment ' service stared every soldier in the face, and this spurred me to take up the question of propaganda even more deeply than before.There was often more than enough time for thinking, and the enemy offered practical instruction which, to our sorrow, was only too good.For what we failed to do, the enemy did, with amazing skill and really brilliant calculation. I, myself, learned enormously from this enemy war propaganda. But time passed and left no trace in the minds of all those who should have benefited; partly because they considered themselves too clever to from the enemy, partly owing to lack of good will.QuoteWhen I entered the German Labour Party I at once took charge of the propaganda, believing this branch to be far the most important for the time being. Just then it was not a matter of pressing necessity to cudgel one's brains over problems of organization. The first necessity was to spread our ideas among as many people as possible. Propaganda should go well ahead of organization and gather together the human material for the latter to work up. I have never been in favour of hasty and pedantic methods of organization, because in most cases the result is merely a piece of dead mechanism and only rarely a living organization. Organization is a thing that derives its existence from organic life, organic evolution. When the same set of ideas have found a lodgement in the minds of a certain number of people they tend of themselves to form a certain degree of order among those people and out of this inner formation something that is very valuable arises. Of course here, as everywhere else, one must take account of those human weaknesses which make men hesitate, especially at the beginning, to submit to the control of a superior mind. If an organization is imposed from above downwards in a mechanical fashion, there is always the danger that some individual may push himself forward who is not known for what he is and who, out of jealousy, will try to hinder abler persons from taking a leading place in the movement. The damage that results from that kind of thing may have fatal consequences, especially in a new movement.
ABOUT WILMOTT

PW by JB

Wilmott.com has been "Serving the Quantitative Finance Community" since 2001. Continued...


Twitter LinkedIn Instagram

JOBS BOARD

JOBS BOARD

Looking for a quant job, risk, algo trading,...? Browse jobs here...


GZIP: On