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Re: Jung Typololgy Test

December 16th, 2017, 4:32 pm

Let's add to the list of words that the Center for Disease Control (and Prevention) really should not use, particularly not in its funding proposal for 2018.  Nothing to worry about - go back to your reality TV shows or Bitcoin bidding...

- heroin
- crystal meth
- addiction
- Hepatitis C
- Zika virus
- insect-borne disease
- MRSA
- toxic waste
- hurricanes
- earthquakes
- cholera
- epidemics
- Zombies
...

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Re: Jung Typololgy Test

December 16th, 2017, 4:42 pm

not a diplomatic document.
The article concerns the National Security Strategy which is a document produced by the executive branch for Congress
The National Security Strategy (NSS) is a document prepared periodically by the executive branch of the government of the United States for Congress which outlines the major national security concerns of the United States and how the administration plans to deal with them. The legal foundation for the document is spelled out in the Goldwater-Nichols Act. The document is purposely general in content (contrast with the National Military Strategy, NMS) and its implementation relies on elaborating guidance provided in supporting documents (including the NMS).
 
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Re: Jung Typololgy Test

December 16th, 2017, 4:54 pm

When I say "a diplomatic document," I mean having to do with international diplomacy and naturally that includes issues of domestic and international security.  

As opposed to a document created by the CDC expressly to request domestic budget approval and allocations for 2018.

While the National Security Strategy document has implications for budget requests and directions, it is not a budget proposal in itself.  It serves as guidance and a supplement to the formal budget request, as explained on your Wiki link below.

Further - Obama still used the word terrorism, he just declined to attribute it to Islamic Extremism.  It's a choice to deescalate a conflict from a verbal standpoint.

1) Clearly not all Muslims are Islamic extremists, so why tar Islam with that brush.
2) Not all terrorists are working in the name of Islam, so keep that type of activity named without tying it together automatically.

From pauper's link:

"The requirement of producing this report along with the budget request leads to an iterative, interagency process involving high level meetings that helps to resolve internal differences in foreign policy agendas. However, “this report was not to be a neutral planning document, as many academics and even some in uniform think it to be. Rather it was … intended to serve five primary purposes.” [1]
  1. Communicate the Executive’s strategic vision to Congress, and thus legitimize its requests for resources.
  2. Communicate the Executive’s strategic vision to foreign constituencies, especially governments not on the US’s summit agenda.
  3. Communicate with select domestic audiences, such as political supporters seeking Presidential recognition of their issues, and those who hope to see a coherent and farsighted strategy they could support.
  4. Create internal consensus on foreign and defense policy within the executive branch.
  5. Contribute to the overall agenda of the President, both in terms of substance and messaging.
 
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Re: Jung Typololgy Test

December 16th, 2017, 5:00 pm

if all muslims were islamic extremists, it wouldn't be islamic extremism it would just be islam
 
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December 16th, 2017, 5:08 pm

ENTPExtravert(1%)  iNtuitive(100%)  Thinking(31%)  Perceiving(33)%What's that about?
31% thinking is not a lot.
1% E is borderline, what?
 
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Re: Jung Typololgy Test

December 16th, 2017, 5:13 pm

So here is the question about the CDC.

Even if you really are right/far right of center, do you think that the President should be trying to shape the research agenda at this level, for that agency, and in this manner?

There are some real right/alt right hot buttons on the list of banned words.

See what the CDC does. Anyway, this is going to be another firestorm for the White House. Will be interesting.
 
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Re: Jung Typololgy Test

December 16th, 2017, 5:32 pm

“The forbidden words are “vulnerable,” “entitlement,” “diversity,” “transgender,” “fetus,” “evidence-based” and “science-based.””
I can understand the ban on “vulnerable,” “entitlement,” “diversity.” Those words are politically-defined social policy words more so than medical terminology.

But “transgender” certainly seems like a valid medical term for a subpopulation with physical or psychological properties outside of the binary categories. And the banning of “fetus,” “evidence-based” and “science-based” reeks of christian extremism that has no place in government let alone a modern society. That sort of nonsense seems guaranteed to send the country backward on the development scale.
 
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Re: Jung Typololgy Test

December 16th, 2017, 5:35 pm

I would ban CDC word because it is already taken. 60 bit.

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Re: Jung Typololgy Test

December 16th, 2017, 5:38 pm

Interviewer: "Can you imagine yourself as the leader of Burma having to use violence against humans, to use force to kill people?"]

Suu Kyi: "It's an occupational hazard."

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December 16th, 2017, 5:46 pm

“The forbidden words are “vulnerable,” “entitlement,” “diversity,” “transgender,” “fetus,” “evidence-based” and “science-based.””
I can understand the ban on “vulnerable,” “entitlement,” “diversity.”  Those words are politically-defined social policy words more so than medical terminology.  

But “transgender” certainly seems like a valid medical term for a subpopulation with physical or psychological properties outside of the binary categories.  And the banning of “fetus,” “evidence-based” and “science-based” reeks of christian extremism that has no place in government let alone a modern society.  That sort of nonsense seems guaranteed to send the country backward on the development scale.
ppauper uses the blanket term "shemale"
 
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Re: Jung Typololgy Test

December 16th, 2017, 6:34 pm

I think almost everyone is familiar with the CDC. I sat next to a CDC researcher on a flight from JFK to heathrow many years ago.
“The forbidden words are “vulnerable,” “entitlement,” “diversity,” “transgender,” “fetus,” “evidence-based” and “science-based.””
I can understand the ban on “vulnerable,” “entitlement,” “diversity.”  Those words are politically-defined social policy words more so than medical terminology.  

But “transgender” certainly seems like a valid medical term for a subpopulation with physical or psychological properties outside of the binary categories.  And the banning of “fetus,” “evidence-based” and “science-based” reeks of christian extremism that has no place in government let alone a modern society.  That sort of nonsense seems guaranteed to send the country backward on the development scale.
ppauper uses the blanket term "shemale"
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it's a request that alternative terminology be used

some people consider the term "fetus" offensive, because it is dehumanizing. This is not a ban on discussing a subject (and no one has suggested that it is), rather it's a request that terminology be used which doesn't offend people.
It's been done before. In May 2016, Obama signed into law H.R. 4238, which "modernizes terms in specified statutes related to minorities." The terms "eskimo" and "oriental" were replaced by "alaska native" and "asian american"


"science-based" and "evidence-based" were covered in the link,
Instead of “science-based” or ­“evidence-based,” the suggested phrase is “CDC bases its recommendations on science in consideration with community standards and wishes,” the person said.
Which is more accurate. I recall from the global warming brouhaha that warmers use the term "science-based" to try to silence debate on controversial issues where there is in reality disagreement between scientists. I'd prefer they go further and specify what the "science" is
 
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Re: Jung Typololgy Test

December 16th, 2017, 7:03 pm

Here are some of the specific Offices in the CDC organization (not all of them).  Just for those who may be curious about what this agency does and why terminology and the inclusion or exclusion of descriptive terms about certain populations and stages of life may be important. 

If you were an epidemiologist, those terms could be important.
Imagine if the term "homosexual"or "IV drug user" had been banned when they were trying to figure out how HIV/AIDs was spreading.

Not that it was limited to those populations, but what a disadvantage from a research, education, and prevention standpoint.
 
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December 16th, 2017, 7:21 pm

Over here the term is "foetus"
 
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December 16th, 2017, 7:29 pm

A medical term with clear meaning.  Imagine how many research papers in peer-reviewed medical journals have used that term...

I guess to discuss such research we will need to do a  global Search and Replace. 

Anyway, for some people there was no Moon Landing and the Earth is flat. 

(NASA can't go to the Moon, it never could).  :D

I'll let you know when the book burnings start. 
 
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December 16th, 2017, 8:00 pm


I'll let you know when the book burnings start. 
started already