I got up today after twelve and then went to say Friday prayer after 1:30 pm. I left the home after 2:30 pm and tried to get good water. I bought some drinks but they were not good and I later dumped them. I was able to buy water from an isolated shop and it seemed fine. It seemed that water was very lightly drugged and I think it must have been drugged more than a month ago when things had not become very serious and they were adding milder chemicals that I would remain reasonably fine even after taking bad water or food. I also had some solid food and came back home and after coming back home I was able to continue working on my risk management project and almost did all of the work required to complete it and I would finish all the work in another day. This was basically summary of today.
Here I will tell friends about how I was detained two years ago by a psychiatrist. I was detained last year as well but this is before that and it was two years ago.
Post 459: Sun May 29, 2016 9:05 pm
Amin:This evening when I returned to my home from the office, there were three people from a psychiatrist facility already waiting for me. I was totally shocked since my family had mentioned no such intentions at all.The three staff took me with them to the psychiatrist Dr. A of facility called P in Gulberg. where I was interviewed by the psychiatrist. After a quite long interview the psychiatrist said that I was in the residual phase where there were still no symptoms of schizophrenia but it would surely come back. He said that patients of paranoid schizophrenia never recover unless they recover in the first two years of treatment. He said that symptoms had not appeared but he really had to take some action and he had to give me a small continuous dose of anti-psychotics. He has detained me on his psychiatric health facility. I continued to argue that I could periodically visit him so if the symptoms ever appear, I could start taking medication but he refused and insisted that I must be detained and anti-psychotics must be given to me.I kept my computer with me so I am able to post on internet. If I am unable to post for a few days, it would mean that my computer has been snatched from me.
Here is the next post 460: Mon May 30, 2016 1:23 am
Amin:I had asked the Doctor to make a written diagnosis of my case. He wrote the following three points.
1. Taping doors, vents, shank, washroom.
2. Prefer eating from outside with reasoning that home food makes him fatter while food from outside has caused significant weight gain.
3. Safeguarding water bottles as if someone will pollute/mix something/medicine in water.
I will explain my point of view here for his diagnosis, point by point.
1. Taping doors, vents, shank, washroom.doors:
I do apply a small amount of paper tape to both doors of the room when I sleep since the locks can be opened from outside. There is no special worry just that I really want to be aware if anything wrong ever happens.
vents:I taped airconditioner air outlet when it was winters more than six months ago. Some tape came off after a few days. Most tape came off after two weeks and the outlet was open again. I did not tape it again. If it is schizophrenia, I would be taping it many times a day. I just taped it once more than six months ago and the doctor considers it as an evidence of schizophrenia. This was a one time incident more than six months ago.
Shank: I also applied two inches of tape on two holes close to top of the basin. It was also more than six months ago. The tape stayed and I never cared after that. Doctor cites it as an evidence of schizophrenia.This was a one time incident more than six months ago.
I never applied tape on the washroom doors. I did tape the shank/wash basin as I mentioned in the above but there was never tape on the washroom door. Doctor hastily added it to fabricate more substance since there was reference to tape on shank/wash basin.
2. Prefer eating from outside with reasoning that home food makes him fatter while food from outside has caused significant weight gain.
My weight actually increased significantly due to anti-psychotics that were given to me more than six months earlier. When I left anti-psychotics, the weight might have slightly increased but most increase was due to anti-psychotics.I mentioned that I do eat from home once a week. But doctor thought that I was violating the society norm in which we should eat at home.
3. Safeguarding water bottles as if someone will pollute/mix something/medicine in water.
This is based on my mother's statement of a single incident that a few days ago, I stopped her from entering my room. There was no mention of water but she said she thought that must be the reason. I had not alluded to water and it was her reasoning. I did stop her from entering my room but she made up her reasoning that I was thinking that she would do any harm to water. I really had no such thought at all. This stopping her from entering the room was just one time incident and never a repetition. There has never been any other incident with my family when I would stop them from entering my room. Doctor cited this one time incident as evidence of schizophrenia.
Everybody in my family and people around agree that I do everything perfectly normally. I do not get angry at all. I am very very rarely if ever upset with any one and I cannot recall any incident of the sort in past few years. I am totally composed most of the times and make perfectly rational decisions and talk perfect sense. In past ten years, I never had a fight with anyone.
In the above post and in the post below it is completely clear that I was detained on most frivolous excuses and declared sick.
Post 461: Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:32 am
Amin:My mother had presented another evidence of schizophrenia to the doctor that I will tell friends here. I have about five soaps in my washroom some of them I tried but I did not like so I simply discontinued their use and they remained in the wash room. My mother never talked to me about the soaps. But she told the doctor that his disease is so severe he has more than five soaps in his washroom. He must be thinking something is wrong with the soaps. Would you guys believe how the doctor responded,"Ahsan, now five soaps in the wash room are too much and I consider that really abnormal and I have started to think that this must be a disease." He continued to insist that five soaps in the washroom must be considered abnormal by me. However, he did not mention the soaps in the three symptoms he wrote for me in the diagnosis and I copied exactly in the previous post.The doctor asked me a day after he detained me if I would like injections or pills. I said that I would prefer pills since there might be lesser side effects. He said I will start with Risp 1mg and see how it goes. The first day they gave a round indigo colored tablet wrapped in paper. I did not make a big deal and took the tablet and requested the staff to bring the tablet in original packaging the next time. The next day, the staff brought a white tablet with Risp 1 written on it wrapped in paper again. When I asked why the tablet they had given me the previous night was different. The staff replied that they could not get hold of Risp 1 mg from the market that day and they had to give me some other tablet at the start.So I have had an unknown tablet for a day and two Risp tablets for two other days. I have already started to feel the left side of my brain being numb(I am right handed). I have started to lose facility of thought and good reasoning and yesterday, I told the doctor that drugs already had started to have an effect. I also requested the doctor that he should now let me go free since the disease was only residual as he had told me and there was no excuse about keeping me detained but the doctor did not say anything about when he would let me go out and explicitly said that he could not give me a date when he would let me leave his facility.
I want to tell friends that doctor who detained was not a professional psychiatrist and he was just a simple doctor but he was owner of the mental facility and he had no legal authority to diagnose me. Then he asked me to choose another professional qualified visiting psychiatrist who would give opinion about my disease. This is when I met Dr. N who I have always praised and who was an extremely nice guy and interestingly he had no religion. This was a doctor who had practiced for more than fifteen years in United States before coming to Pakistan. Dr. N said that I Was perfectly fine and seemed to have no disease. Here is a post I wrote on this forum.
Post 462. Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:25 pm
Amin:I met Dr. A of facility P. yesterday and requested him to let me out of detention but he said that my parents thought my disease was severe and Dr. A was not giving me enough medicine. He had still kept me on Risp 1. Dr. A said that he wanted me to meet another psychiatrist to get a second opinion and then he would know when to let me out of his facility. He mentioned another psychiatrist that I did not know from before but I yielded and said that I would be willing to have a session with Dr. N. Today morning I had a meeting with Dr. N and he was one of the nicest guys I ever came across. No psychiatrist since I came to Pakistan about 17 years ago ever gave me so much time for a single session. Finally he told me that he did not think I should be given any medicine. He also said that I should not live with my family and then frivolous issues like putting some tape on the door could not be cited to make up things like a serious disease. He really wanted me to have a plan ready to get out of my current home and live elsewhere since nobody would be able to find little issues and make a mountain out of molehill. He also told me that the practice of previous psychiatrists like giving electric shocks for several weeks at the start of the therapy without trying medicine for a long time and that too without interviewing me at the start of the therapy and many other similar issues I mentioned, seemed criminal to him and such things are called crimes in psychiatry and such psychiatrists should be punished according to law.I met Dr. A today again who is incharge of facility P. and asked him if he would let me leave since Dr. N had already given me opinion that I was not sick. But Dr. A told me a totally different story and said that Dr. N thinks we should put you on injections. He said that Doctors say such things like,"you have no disease." to make repo with the patient. He also said that Dr. N had told me that I was in denial. I was shocked to hear such statements from Dr. A and asked him that in such a case I will like a written assessment from Dr. N as well. Dr. A agreed that he will get a written assessment from Dr. N for me. Dr. A also said that he wanted me to sign papers from him but I totally refused to sign any papers. Let us see if he threatens force to make me sign some papers. Dr. A also said that I will get a chance to talk to Dr. N again once and then he will decide my medication. He continued to insist that he wanted to give me injections for four to five years while I said that I am not ready to take any injections.In the meeting with Dr. A yesterday, when I talked about points in his written diagnosis, he said that I just made up a diagnosis since you were insisting on written diagnosis. It was not serious. Please do not consider it a formal diagnosis.
I was kept detained for more than a week and then there was another meeting with Dr. N and here is my post about that meeting.
Post 468: Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:23 am
Amin:Later at night last Saturday, I had a second meeting with Dr. N and he told me that he had already talked to my family and they were more worried so he decided to have a session with me again. The session on Saturday went quite well and I was able to address the worries of Dr. N. But Dr. N and I agreed that there will be another third session when my mother and myself will meet with Dr. N together to sort out everything. Today we had a session again and my mother arrived in the clinic and Dr. N listened to me and my mother and after hearing our arguments he told me that I seemed fine and he would just ask me to keep taking a low dose of Risperidone 1 mg. He also asked my mother that some people are different and they have no psychiatric problems but we have to try to understand them. He also told me that I should keep visiting him periodically so he could stay in touch and every problem could be amicably settled. I did agree since I found him more caring and thoughtful than any other doctor I had seen since I came to Pakistan seventeen years ago. In past no psychiatrist was ready to listen to me and all of them diagnosed a disease after summary hearing. Whenever I would argue, every doctor would simply respond saying, "I am the doctor and I know what to do." Dr. N also said that he would make a recommendation to Dr. A to discharge me from his facility as he had realized that there was no need to detain me now. He said that it was now left to Dr. A who is incharge of clinic P. to make his decision when to let me walk out of his clinic.
After this meeting I was kept detained and my family and the owner of the MBBS facility told that I would no longer see Dr. N who had declared me mentally healthy. I was given injections and more drugs and MBBS doctor (owner of the psychiatrist facility) who was not even a qualified psychiatrist continued to give me drugs he wished. In the post below Dr. AS is owner of the psychiatrist facility.
Post 472: Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:50 pm
Amin:The staff gave me an injection about an hour ago. I really think that Dr. AS(or Dr. A, Dr. A in previous posts) should have talked to me before giving me the injection since Dr. N had suggested that I should be given no injections and Dr. AS(Dr. A) is only an MBBS and he cannot revoke the decisions of a psychiatrist. Staff told me that they would have to detain me for a longer period and I would not be leaving in next day or two and staff did not know how long Dr. AS(Dr. A) would have to detain me.I am afraid since Dr. N did not want to give any strong medication, Dr. AS would now talk to another psychiatrist Dr. M to write a diagnosis of Dr. AS's choice. Dr.M is another psychiatrist who practices criminal psychiatry. For example Dr. M, when I came to this clinic in 2014 more than two years ago, had told me that he would restrict my right for a second opinion under Mental health law of Pakistan and under mental health law only DR.M would treat me. No psychiatrist could ever take away my right for a second opinion (There is no such law) but he knew he could enforce anything in detention in the psychiatric facility of Dr. AS since he had also asked the staff to use force when needed. I was detained for about fifty days back then. I am sure since an opinion of Dr. AS' choice has not been given by Dr. N, he would call Dr. M to make a diagnosis and treatment of Dr. AS' choice.
Here I have made a post in the following days of detention. When I asked Dr. AS that Dr. N had declared me mentally healthy, he said that I am no longer being treated by Dr. N and now it is another psychiatrist who is treating me. The other psychiatrist had not physically seen me at all. But Dr. AS said that Dr. AS had told the other psychiatrist about my condition and the other psychiatrist had proposed injections and my meeting the psychiatrist was not necessary.
Post 476: Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:15 am
Amin:Since I wrote about high blood pressure and mentioned high blood pressure before the hospital staff, they have started to doctor blood pressure. Now, everyday they tell me that my blood pressure is 120/80 or 110/70. While they always told me that my blood pressure was 130/90 or 140/100 prior to injections. I have never had so good blood pressure for years that they have started to tell me now. Friends would recall a previous post when I could not sleep at night and had to take a sleeping pill. When the dispenser came to me at night(The hospital has no MBBS who stays here at night in Ramadan. Dr. AS used to stay here on some nights earlier but has been totally absent in Ramadan). When the dispenser checked my blood pressure, he told me that it upper blood pressure is 110. I did not believe him at all. He asked me to check on my own and put the stethoscope head assembly in my ears. I could easily tell that upper blood pressure was more than 140 and lower was more than 100. The staff has already started to doctor blood pressure.My parents are going to Saudi Arabia for two weeks in a few days. Now Dr. AS has the plan to hold me in detention while my parents are abroad. I had a complete settlement with Dr. N and we(I and the doctor N) both agreed that I would be visiting him every fifteen days and all modalities were agreed. I do think as a patient it is my right to choose the psychiatrist and Dr. AS( who is incharge of facility Pav.) has no right to change the doctor after I have selected a psychiatrist and we both agree on terms of any treatment. Dr. AS has imposed another psychiatrist Dr. M who has not even seen me and has already started giving me injections and increased medicine without looking at my present condition. Dr. N had explicitly stated that I would be free to leave if it were his facility. Most major reason for detaining me now is that Dr.AS wants to continue to detain me while my parents are leaving for abroad for more than two weeks.
When I would ask my mother to let me out of facility telling her that Dr. N has already said that I Was healthy, she would say that hospital staff is not letting her meet me at all and she was helpless.
Post 477: Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:46 am
Ok Dr. AS decided to hold me for a far longer period without my seeing any other qualified psychiatrist and then my parents decided to go to Saudi Arabia and I was told that I would be kept detained until they return. I was extremely worried and then I promised my family to take injections and drugs if they let me out of detention. When my parents became confident of my promise, they told Dr. AS to let me go to my sister's home who would make sure that I would keep on taking injections and drugs while my parents would be abroad in Saudi Arabia. Here is a post I made about it.
Amin:I have yet to see a psychiatrist after having a meeting with Dr. N on Monday. Though I was given an injection and my dose was doubled and I was told that it is another Dr. M who has advised new medication, I have yet to see Dr. M who had seen me last time more than nine months ago. I have also not seen Dr. AS for more than a week now. I think according to medical rules there should be an MBBS doctor at night in the psychiatric facility but Dr. AS does not show up these days as he used to stay in the clinic on most nights before the start of Ramadan. It was decided after our joint meeting with Dr. N and my mother on Monday that matter has been settled and my mother had told me that she would come to take me out of the facility after paying the dues but when we talked on phone she complained that hospital staff was not allowing her to meet me and did not let her take me out of the facility. She told me that she was helpless and could not do anything before the hospital staff. She later told me that my father would come to Lahore on coming Monday and then she would see what to do.Let us see if my family takes me out of the hospital in next few days or want to extend my detention for another few weeks after my parents go to Saudi Arabia.
Here is a post I made after my release.
Post 478: Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:01
Amin:Sorry friends, I missed to update here. My detention has ended and I was allowed to leave the facility on 23rd of June. I was given another injection on that day and there will be another injection every fifteen days and I was asked to take 3 mg Risp every night. So I am out but I still have to endure heavy drugs. However since I am not detained anymore, I will be seeking advice of some other psychiatrist and I look forward to no medicine or very little medicine after getting second opinion. I will have to wait for a few weeks before doing that since I am bound by an agreement with the doctor and my family on the conditions of my release from detention.I have started to contact various people for starting various projects and let us see how that goes and I will keep updating friends here about it.
Here is a later post. I was given injections but I had realized that my blood pressure increased with the injections. I had earlier told the Doctor. AS to not give me Ariparizole since it affects the heart and I already used to feel pain in my heart but Dr. AS insisted that I must take the same injections. I was later living with my sister and she asked me to take next injection due but I requested her to check my blood pressure first. And when my blood pressure was tested in a laboratory, lower blood pressure was at 110. The hospital asked that I should be admitted for blood pressure relief. My sister had to stop giving me injections since it became clear that it was seriously affecting my heart. I took appointment with a cardiologist after that. Here is the relevant post.
Post 481: Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:30 am
Amin:My sister insisted that the next injection is due today and I should get the injection. I resisted and tried to explain that earlier injection already had too many side effects. I told her the following recent side effects.
a. Every night my mouth is extremely dry from inside and I would wake up several times and go to washroom and wash my mouth with water. This happens every night.
b. I would feel short of breath several times. Of course, my breathing would not stop but I would have to breathe harder after that.
c. After eating something sweet, the taste inside my mouth would change and become extremely unpleasant.
d. I also spoke about my previous heart problems with the injections.
She was however firm that I really should get the injections. We talked to another doctor that was known to my sister. He said that if his blood pressure and pulse are fine there is no problem, he should get the injections. I had not checked my blood pressure after I left the facility P. of Doctor A.When the blood pressure was checked, it was 110/140 and my pulse was 110. It was a random blood pressure check and I was not feeling any headache etc. My sister had to abandon the plans of injecting me and we decided to check with a cardiologist now. I also spoke to my mother in Saudi Arabia and we decided that I would follow treatment and advice of Dr. N after talking to him again.I have earlier claimed that some Americans involved in my persecution want my early death. I also make the claim that they block some neuro-transmitters that are related to most vital functions of the body like heart beat and other things with similar vital importance to sustain life in ourselves. I am extremely sure of this.Only five years ago when I went to Britain, I used to run for more than ten kilometers everyday in London for more than a month while carrying a small bagpack on my shoulders that had my important stuff in it and I would not have any issue of any sort.I would request good humans everywhere (including America) to raise voice against my persecution and strongly insist that EM waves frequencies related to neurotransmitters that are supposed to be vital to our life must not be used on me or any other human.
If you want to read all of it, you can start reading from post 459 here. viewtopic.php?f=15&t=94796&start=450