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October 26th, 2013, 9:56 am

I thought they were moors not slaves It's nice that the dutch are inclusive and try to involve other cultures in the christian holidays
 
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October 26th, 2013, 10:00 am

QuoteIt's nice that the dutch are inclusive and try to involve other cultures in the christian holidays They certainly got them 'involved' you're right. Whether they liked it or not.
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October 26th, 2013, 12:17 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: CuchulainnQuoteIt's nice that the dutch are inclusive and try to involve other cultures in the christian holidays They certainly got them 'involved' you're right. Whether they liked it or not.this one seems happy enoughQuoteGolden age of Barbary slaveryAfter a revolt in the mid-17th century reduced the ruling Ottoman Pashas to little more than figureheads in the region, the towns of Tripoli, Algiers, Tunis and others became independent in all but name. Without a large central authority and its laws, the pirates themselves started to gain much influence. Pirate raids for the acquisition of slaves occurred in towns and villages on the African Atlantic seaboard, as well as in Europe. Reports of Barbary raids and kidnappings of those in Italy, Spain, France, Portugal, England, Ireland, Scotland as far north as Iceland exist from between the 16th to the 19th centuries. It is estimated that between 1 million and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by pirates and sold as slaves during this time period. Famous accounts of Barbary slave raids include a mention in the Diary of Samuel Pepys and a raid on the coastal village of Baltimore, Ireland, during which pirates left with the entire populace of the settlement. Such raids in the Mediterrean were so frequent and devastating that the coastline between Venice to Malaga suffered widespread depopulation, and settlement there was discouraged. In fact, it was said that this was largely because 'there was no one left to capture any longer'. The power and influence of these pirates during this time was such that nations including the United States of America paid tribute in order to stave off their attacks.
 
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October 26th, 2013, 12:21 pm

A new study suggests that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by Muslims in North Africa between 1530 and 1780
 
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October 26th, 2013, 12:35 pm

sack of Baltimoredo unto others as you would have done unto you With Dutchmen in the crews. home from home BTW they have a penis museum on Heimay.
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October 26th, 2013, 12:53 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperA new study suggests that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by Muslims in North Africa between 1530 and 1780 And how many Africans were enslaved by European Christians?
 
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October 26th, 2013, 12:57 pm

and ... Hebrews enslaved by Egyptians
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October 26th, 2013, 12:58 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: Traden4AlphaQuoteOriginally posted by: ppauperA new study suggests that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by Muslims in North Africa between 1530 and 1780 And how many Africans were enslaved by European Christians?Just 4, but the let them free. (just kidding)
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October 26th, 2013, 2:01 pm

answer, very fewAfricans enslaved other Africans.The slaves were sold to European slave tradesQuote The vast majority of slaves transported to the New World were Africans from the central and western parts of the continent, sold by Africans to European slave traders who then transported them to North and South America. andQuoteThe Atlantic slave trade was not the only slave trade from Africa, although it was the largest in volume and intensity. As Elikia M?bokolo wrote in Le Monde diplomatique: "The African continent was bled of its human resources via all possible routes. Across the Sahara, through the Red Sea, from the Indian Ocean ports and across the Atlantic. At least ten centuries of slavery for the benefit of the Muslim countries (from the ninth to the nineteenth).... Four million enslaved people exported via the Red Sea, another four million through the Swahili ports of the Indian Ocean, perhaps as many as nine million along the trans-Saharan caravan route, and eleven to twenty million (depending on the author) across the Atlantic Ocean."According to John K. Thornton, Europeans usually bought enslaved people who were captured in endemic warfare between African states. There were also Africans who had made a business out of capturing Africans from neighboring ethnic groups or war captives and selling them. People living around the Niger River were transported from these markets to the coast and sold at European trading ports in exchange for muskets (matchlock between 1540?1606 but flintlock from then on) and manufactured goods such as cloth or alcohol. However, the European demand for slaves provided a large new market for the already existing trade. Further, while those held in slavery in their own region of Africa might hope to escape, those shipped away had little chance of returning to Africa.
 
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October 26th, 2013, 6:18 pm

This map shows where the world?s 30 million slaves live.
 
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October 28th, 2013, 4:13 pm

That is sad and infuriating. But at least it is self-correcting for there is now one less believer of these retarded world views who could infect the next generation.
 
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October 28th, 2013, 4:39 pm

QuoteOriginally posted by: outrun17 year old girl from the Dutch Bible Belt dies of measles.Parents: "we do not vaccin, it's God who decides"Her whole future and social network demolished by retarded world views.In one sense you are correct. In another sense you are projecting your own views on a whole group which is not exactly fair.I actually like some of the things that Rouwvoet (Christian Party) has to say.Socialy, it all went wrong when the baby boomers let their children do what they wanted. The moral fabic has been eroded in the country. I see it every day. No self-criticism.
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October 28th, 2013, 4:45 pm

It's funny that you say that, when I look around me, I see most parents being quite strict about what their kids are allowed/not allowed to do. Actually I had much more freedom as a kid then the kids have now.Maybe it's a middle class thing.