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DominicConnor
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 2nd, 2017, 7:25 pm

It is not Germany 1933, because Madrid did not use enough violence against the Catalans.
A few rubber bullets, head kicks and sticks do not deter any opposition that is worth deterring.

They do sway the people in the middle who see fascist-era national police attacking voting centres. Personally I don't care one way or another whether Catalonia gets independence but the people attacking voters are the bad guys.

So it's too little violence to deter and too much to be seen as legitimate.
 
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 2nd, 2017, 7:33 pm

4. it's reminiscent of Germany in 1933. ***

Your man has a good memory.  Why could he not have said "it was like Franco in 1956". I have read the ***.  Discussions are so impoverished these days, what?

Let's leave the Nazis out. We all know the story, seen it on the National Hitler TV.  Each time I turn it on I get the last days of Hitler, everything or blood and guts Patton in the Ardennes, Nazis and aliens etc. Someone on Wilmott once said I was worse than "Mister Hitler". Imagine calling him mister. 

You don't see any of Franco's misdemeanors on TV, let alone Pinochet. 
 
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 2nd, 2017, 8:22 pm

what's next
Without specifying when, Carles Puigdemont, the Catalan leader, said he would submit the result for approval to the regional Parliament. That could lead to a unilateral declaration of independence and tip the country even deeper into crisis — already one of the worst since the start of Spain’s democracy in the 1970s.
 
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 2nd, 2017, 8:49 pm

Why is this even considered such a crisis?

Other than harming the egos of some Spanish politicians, why not let Catalonia go it's own way?
 
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 2nd, 2017, 8:56 pm

Traden4Alpha wrote:
Why is this even considered such a crisis?

Other than harming the egos of some Spanish politicians, why not let Catalonia go it's own way?

Then Baskenland and Galicia follow? 
 
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 2nd, 2017, 9:16 pm

Cuchulainn wrote:
Traden4Alpha wrote:
Why is this even considered such a crisis?

Other than harming the egos of some Spanish politicians, why not let Catalonia go it's own way?

Then Baskenland and Galicia follow? 
Why not?

Should the people in not(Baskenland) own or control the people in Baskenland?
 
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 2nd, 2017, 9:38 pm

Traden4Alpha wrote:
Why is this even considered such a crisis?

Other than harming the egos of some Spanish politicians, why not let Catalonia go it's own way?

Don't mention the war.
 
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 2nd, 2017, 10:22 pm

Cuchulainn wrote:
Traden4Alpha wrote:
Why is this even considered such a crisis?

Other than harming the egos of some Spanish politicians, why not let Catalonia go it's own way?

Don't mention the war.

Which one? There have been so many.
 
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 3rd, 2017, 6:20 am

The one that still is in Spain. Didn't you know it was only an armistice?
 
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 3rd, 2017, 7:07 am

Here's a true story; the day after Spain beat Holland in World Cup soccer I was in Madrid. So I had to  be somewhere by 9 am. My body clock wakes me around 7.50 am, as usual. When I awoke it was 8.50 am!!! I could not understand until I read this. 

Spain Has Been In The 'Wrong' Time Zone For 7 Decades

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2 ... en-decades

Will Catalonia move to CET? Now it's in the same time zone as Poland. A Franco legacy.
 
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Traden4Alpha
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 3rd, 2017, 1:46 pm

Cuchulainn wrote:
Here's a true story; the day after Spain beat Holland in World Cup soccer I was in Madrid. So I had to  be somewhere by 9 am. My body clock wakes me around 7.50 am, as usual. When I awoke it was 8.50 am!!! I could not understand until I read this. 

Spain Has Been In The 'Wrong' Time Zone For 7 Decades

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2 ... en-decades

Will Catalonia move to CET? Now it's in the same time zone as Poland. A Franco legacy.
Well that explains everything!

The wrong timezone forces everyone to get up an hour early, making them very grumpy!
 
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 3rd, 2017, 7:48 pm

Traden4Alpha wrote:
Cuchulainn wrote:
Here's a true story; the day after Spain beat Holland in World Cup soccer I was in Madrid. So I had to  be somewhere by 9 am. My body clock wakes me around 7.50 am, as usual. When I awoke it was 8.50 am!!! I could not understand until I read this. 

Spain Has Been In The 'Wrong' Time Zone For 7 Decades

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2 ... en-decades

Will Catalonia move to CET? Now it's in the same time zone as Poland. A Franco legacy.

Well that explains everything!

The wrong timezone forces everyone to get up an hour early, making them very grumpy!

You wouldn't hear Bishop Ussher uttering those words.
 
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 4th, 2017, 6:23 am

 
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 4th, 2017, 10:24 am

Interesting opinion, imho - it aligns with that of some Catalans and (rightful) Castilians I know

Had they let the referendum go ahead, the result would be most likely a no (the pro-independence sentiment has been fading away since the end of recession - or a yes, and Madrid would tell Barcelona to stick it), but they gave this unnecessary brutal demonstration of power, which unveiled the scale of division between the two regions.
 
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Re: Homage to Catalonia

October 4th, 2017, 11:06 am

Sedition?
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