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Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: June 28th, 2018, 3:43 pm
by leptoq
Appeasement?
agreed that Saudi, UAE, Egypt, and Jordan aren't particularly pleasant countries, but the Trump administration has figured out that those 4 countries are major donors to the Palestinians and so have leverage. The plan seems to be to convince the Saudis etc and then have them convince the Palestinians
The are also major donors to other business dealings. So, they are compromised and can't be trusted.
Can't be trusted to do what? When sugar daddy pays almost all your bills, you can bet he will have strong opinion about your drinking habits. The same applies to Palestinians.  
 

Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: June 28th, 2018, 8:10 pm
by Cuchulainn
agreed that Saudi, UAE, Egypt, and Jordan aren't particularly pleasant countries, but the Trump administration has figured out that those 4 countries are major donors to the Palestinians and so have leverage. The plan seems to be to convince the Saudis etc and then have them convince the Palestinians
The are also major donors to other business dealings. So, they are compromised and can't be trusted.
Can't be trusted to do what? When sugar daddy pays almost all your bills, you can bet he will have strong opinion about your drinking habits. The same applies to Palestinians.  
 
Who's playing who and what and when?

Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: July 31st, 2018, 10:47 am
by Cuchulainn
Israeli Police Arrest Italian Artists Painting Mural of Ahed Tamimi

https://www.msn.com/nl-nl/video/kijken/ ... vp-BBLceZr

Bad when you're afraid of a mural.

Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: July 31st, 2018, 10:56 am
by ppauper
you call it a mural, others call it graffiti and vandalism. Graffiti artists are arrested in lots of places
Dutch graffiti artist arrested in New York

Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: July 31st, 2018, 11:15 am
by Cuchulainn
you call it a mural, others call it graffiti and vandalism. Graffiti artists are arrested in lots of places
Dutch graffiti artist arrested in New York
You'r BS**ing again.

It's a statement and walls are the last media that protesters have access to. I am surprised that the excellent BBC Jeremy Bowen was allowed in.

Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: July 31st, 2018, 11:17 am
by Cuchulainn

Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: July 31st, 2018, 11:23 am
by Cuchulainn
"A slap is terrorism".

Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: July 31st, 2018, 8:56 pm
by ISayMoo
Don't tell me I wouldn't get punished if I slapped a Dutch or UK soldier...

Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: July 31st, 2018, 9:09 pm
by Cuchulainn
Don't tell me I wouldn't get punished if I slapped a Dutch or UK soldier...
I don't know. My territory is not occupied by any of these forces at the moment of writing..

Some of my judo buddies are soldiers. Judokas don't slap. I prefer armlocks and chokes. Judo is a sport, not real life.

This was a 17-year girl. I see no hope if this is how IDF treats such kids. 

Your line of argumentation is very weak. It is a variation of the True Scotsman Fallacy. aka Shifting the Goalposts.

Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: July 31st, 2018, 10:16 pm
by ppauper
Don't tell me I wouldn't get punished if I slapped a Dutch or UK soldier...
a 73-year-old Zsa Zsa Gabor was sent to prison for slapping a Beverly Hills cop

Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: July 31st, 2018, 10:37 pm
by bearish
Don't tell me I wouldn't get punished if I slapped a Dutch or UK soldier...
a 73-year-old Zsa Zsa Gabor was sent to prison for slapping a Beverly Hills cop
To be precise, three days in jail. There was also the minor matter of driving her Rolls with an open bottle of Jack Daniels close on hand. Oh, and she didn't have a driver's license. But, I guess she's your kind of people...

Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: July 31st, 2018, 10:38 pm
by bearish
Don't tell me I wouldn't get punished if I slapped a Dutch or UK soldier...
a 73-year-old Zsa Zsa Gabor was sent to prison for slapping a Beverly Hills cop
To be precise, three days in jail. There was also the minor matter of driving her Rolls with an open bottle of Jack Daniels close on hand. Oh, and she didn't have a driver's license. But, I guess she's your kind of people... And, it was not Eddy Murphy.

Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: July 31st, 2018, 11:22 pm
by ppauper
a 73-year-old Zsa Zsa Gabor was sent to prison for slapping a Beverly Hills cop
To be precise, three days in jail. There was also the minor matter of driving her Rolls with an open bottle of Jack Daniels close on hand. Oh, and she didn't have a driver's license. But, I guess she's your kind of people... And, it was not Eddy Murphy.
indeed, it was zsa zsa gabor, I just told you.
Eddie Murphy had his own problems with the West Hollywood cops in 1997, when he was pulled over. Officially it was for giving someone a ride, but it sounds like "driving while black." No good deed goes unpunished it would seem.
On May 2, 1997, Murphy was stopped by police after having been observed picking up a transgender prostitute. The prostitute, Shalimar Seiuli, was arrested on an outstanding warrant for prostitution. Murphy was not arrested or charged and claimed he was just giving Seiuli a ride.

Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: August 1st, 2018, 12:41 am
by bearish
Missed cultural reference. Eddie Murphy was the Beverly Hills Cop (I, II, and III).

Re: Israel, land of milk and honey

Posted: August 1st, 2018, 7:51 am
by Cuchulainn
Don't tell me I wouldn't get punished if I slapped a Dutch or UK soldier...
a 73-year-old Zsa Zsa Gabor was sent to prison for slapping a Beverly Hills cop
Some cops might like being slapped.